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Date: | Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:40:38 +0000
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From: | David Stacey <drstacey AT tiscali DOT co DOT uk>
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On 21/11/12 18:42, Warren Young wrote:
> On 11/20/2012 05:51, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
>> On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 10:12 -0600, Warren Young wrote:
>>> This is a *test* version which reverts the patch added to 3.7.12.1-1,
>>> which caused problems with Subversion as a side effect, particularly in
>>> systems using non-Cygwin programs with their svn checkout trees.
>>
>> And in so doing, removed several APIs which were added in 3.7.12.1,
>> breaking other packages which used them once they were made available.
>> Compatibility with Windows shouldn't come before backwards compatibility
>> for Cygwin packages.
>
> Okay, that makes a second vote for principle in four months. (The
> other being Corinna's.) Add to that the original Achim Gratz vote for
> "Unix mode," which carries more weight since it was accompanied by an
> actual example of problems.
>
> Over a shorter period, I've received 16 upvotes on my explanation[1]
> of the problem and its potential solutions. And, the invitation for
> comment I have at the end of that explanation has elicited no comment
> at all.
I'm reluctant to chip into this discussion because there are probably
some strong opinions on both sides. However, my opinions won't count for
anything unless I air them, so...
Whilst I am relatively new to these mailing lists, I have been using
Cygwin for many, many years. I have had to resolve a few conflicts with
other tools over that time - such as disabling my webcam when the driver
clashed with Cygwin's g++, and even now I have to disable my anti-virus
when running setup.exe. These things I tolerate.
However, any conflict with TortoiseSVN is a different matter.
I am a professional software engineer, and Cygwin is one of the tools I
use for my day job. Cygwin is great because it gives me a little Linux
loveliness in a big bad Windows world. But I don't use Cygwin in
isolation - I have many development tools that I use in a Windows
environment, and, yes, one of those is TortoiseSVN.
Cygwin /has/ to function alongside the other development tools I use -
if it can't then I lose interest rapidly. And that means I need Cygwin
svn and TortoiseSVN to play nicely.
Now, I understand the desire for POSIX purity - such aims are laudable
and highly commendable. However, when such ideals stand between me and
getting paid then I take a different view. To put it bluntly, I really
don't care if Cygwin svn uses POSIX locks, Windows locks or anyone
else's locks - as long as it works.
I rather suspect that I am not alone and there are other Cygwin users in
a similar situation.
Apologies for the rant,
Dave.
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