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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:31:54 -0600
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On 3/2/2012 11:43 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 01:11:49AM -0600, Robert Miles wrote:
>> On 3/1/2012 1:38 PM, Jeremy Bopp wrote:
>>> On 03/01/2012 01:05 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
>>>> On 03/01/2012 10:53 AM, Matt Seitz (matseitz) wrote:
[snip]
>>>> I suspect not, but I would like to see such recommended and/or 
>>>> suggested packages. Back when I was using Cygwin gcc so I could 
>>>> learn C, m4 was not installed along with it, and I believe that m4 
>>>> should at least be shown as a recommended package to go along with 
>>>> gcc. 
> There is no reason to include m4 as a gcc dependency if you are trying
> to learn C.  This would not even be a case of a suggestion.  If you
> needed m4 for some reason (maybe for autoconf/automake) that really
> would be a case where you need to install m4 separately.  You can use
> gcc quite happily without having m4 installed.
>
> For the record, I don't think Yaakov, Corinna, or I are really
> interested in spending our time adding some sort of suggestion mechanism
> to setup.exe.  This would have ramifications both for setup.exe, for the
> script which updates setup.ini, and for the genini script.  It would
> likely be a fair amount of work.
>
> Given the fact that this has come up repeatedly over the years I am
> pretty sure that repeated suggestions that setup.exe should be modified
> to do this are likely not going to have any effect.
>
The examples I used for learning C all used #include, and therefore 
required m4 in
order to compile.  I believe gcc gave an error message in this case 
showing what
was missing, and therefore did not slow down the learning process too much.

I remember a second problem with m4 though - some of the #include files 
in the
examples had names starting with blank characters, and m4 did not give 
an error
message that was very useful for identifying this problem and that the 
Cygwin C
libraries were not set up to allow this.

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