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Subject:	Re: Redirecting output from running proc doesn't modify the "last modified time" field for target file
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On Dec  2 13:04, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 12/02/2011 11:50 AM, Jon Clugston wrote:
> > While this loop is running, the timestamp on "x.log" doesn't change
> > (whereas on Linux it changes every 10 seconds).  It sure looks to me
> > that Windows just doesn't bother updating the file timestamp while it
> > is open.  I don't know if this update is required by POSIX - I would
> > doubt that it is.
> 
> POSIX requires that any write() to an open file mark it for update; the
> update doesn't have to occur right away (so you can batch up several
> writes, but only change the mtime metadata once at the end of the
> batch), but it DOES require that stat() and several similar functions
> flush all marked updates prior to exposing timestamps to the user.  So
> yes, Windows is violating POSIX, and I have no idea whether cygwin can
> work around it.

You can change all file operations to use FILE_WRITE_THROUGH and
FILE_NO_INTERMEDIATE_BUFFERING.  Downside:  No caching.  All file
operations must be sector aligned.  Degraded system performance.
Broken when a process has only write permissions.

Alternatively, change write(2) so that every WriteFile call is
accompanied by a FlushFileBuffers call.  Downside: Extremly degraded
write performance.

Alternatively:  Lie.  That's how SUA does it.  It has a background
service running which (among other things) keeps track of write
operations of SUA applications.  If a SUA application calls write(2)
the write timestamp is kept up to date internally, while the metadata
on disk is still lagging in Windows style.  A SUA application calling
stat(2) gets a POSIX compatible timestamp.  Non-SUA apps continue to
show the "wrong" timestamp.  If non-SUA apps write to a file, SUA apps
also show the Windows timestamp.  Cygwin could do the same.  Downside:
We don't have a mandatory background service running.  Quite a hoop to
jump through to implement a usually non-critical POSIX requirement.


Corinna

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