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Date:	Tue, 24 May 2011 05:53:58 -0400
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On 24/05/2011 2:22 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 07:21:16PM -0400, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>> On 22/05/2011 10:53 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 17:19 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>> I don't think we saw anyone step forward with a valid reason why they
>>>> needed to use CYGWIN=tty over something like "mintty".
>>>>
>>>> I've summarized the thread where Corinna asked why people used
>>>> CYGWIN=tty over CYGWIN=notty below.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see any showstoppers here so unless people can provide specific
>>>> examples of how this change would cause hardwhip, we'll be removing
>>>> CYGWIN=tty in a snapshot near you soon.
>>> I could add XWin:
>>>
>>> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9763
>>>
>>> And once again, using mintty is a solution.
>>>
>>> Since mintty is the solution to so many of these scenarios, shouldn't
>>> we make it the default terminal (IOW add mintty to Base and replace the
>>> Cygwin.bat shortcut with mintty's)?  The status quo just encourages
>>> people to use a deficient terminal without any idea that a better one
>>> exists.
>> I would be happy to see mintty as the default.  Since discovering it I
>> essentially stopped using X because xterm was my main reason for firing
>> it up.
>>
>> However...  isn't there some dire warning that gdb only will ever work
>> properly (some of the time) from within a vanilla console window?
>> Something to do with ^C handling?
>>
>> Mind you, I'd love that restriction to be lifted, but it sounded pretty
>> hard and fast the last few times the topic came up.  On the other hand,
>> most casual cygwin users won't be needing gdb often, if ever, so that
>> might not be enough reason to keep the console over mintty.
> Can we PLEASE stay on topic?
>
> This has nothing to do with CYGWIN=tty.  If gdb didn't work in mintty it
> wouldn't work with CYGWIN=tty either.
Sorry... I got distracted by the mintty-as-default tangent.

Back on topic, I have never used CYGWIN=tty (I kept forgetting to set it 
even when directed to do so by various inaccurate how-tos out ther) and 
would not miss it.

Ryan


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