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On 22/05/2011 10:53 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 17:19 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> I don't think we saw anyone step forward with a valid reason why they
>> needed to use CYGWIN=tty over something like "mintty".
>>
>> I've summarized the thread where Corinna asked why people used CYGWIN=tty
>> over CYGWIN=notty below.
>>
>> I don't see any showstoppers here so unless people can provide specific
>> examples of how this change would cause hardwhip, we'll be removing
>> CYGWIN=tty in a snapshot near you soon.
> I could add XWin:
>
> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9763
>
> And once again, using mintty is a solution.
>
> Since mintty is the solution to so many of these scenarios, shouldn't we
> make it the default terminal (IOW add mintty to Base and replace the
> Cygwin.bat shortcut with mintty's)?  The status quo just encourages
> people to use a deficient terminal without any idea that a better one
> exists.
I would be happy to see mintty as the default. Since discovering it I 
essentially stopped using X because xterm was my main reason for firing 
it up.

However... isn't there some dire warning that gdb only will ever work 
properly (some of the time) from within a vanilla console window? 
Something to do with ^C handling?

Mind you, I'd love that restriction to be lifted, but it sounded pretty 
hard and fast the last few times the topic came up. On the other hand, 
most casual cygwin users won't be needing gdb often, if ever, so that 
might not be enough reason to keep the console over mintty.

Ryan


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