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From:	Vasya Pupkin <cygwin AT bsrealm DOT net>
Date:	Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:05:22 +0400
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Subject:	Re: Fwd: Windows File permissions are not being inherited - Cygwin 1.7 - Windows 7
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If you read again very carefully, you will see that I modified
permissions AFTER I noticed they were messed up. Ok?

In my case, these additional permissions were allowing everyone to
modify files. Not harmful at all, indeed. I do not remember all the
details, I remember these permissions were everywhere. So I just
replaced everything with proper permissions and disabled acl support
in cygwin. The only problem was setup.exe but now I compiled it with a
modification and this last problem gone.

I understand that I do not have all the details required for a bug
report. And it wasn't an attempt to report a bug. I was asked why I
care about permissions, so I answered. Anyway, the problem is solved
now, I also submitted an easy patch to setup.exe source for everyone
who want to get rid of this problem as well.

If I ever get into a problem with permissions again, I will try to
make a proper bug report instead of just fixing permissions.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Jeremy Bopp <jeremy AT bopp DOT net> wrote:
> On 9/2/2010 12:49 AM, Vasya Pupkin wrote:
>> No, it wasn't a mess of my own making. I did not ever touch
>> permissions, and it was a clean install. I don't know where these
>> permissions came from, but ls -l displayed something like that for
>> most files:
>
> I read Andy's comment to mean that the mess of your own making is the
> result of you changing the permissions, not the existing permissions as
> left by setup.exe. =C2=A0You made the mess (or correction as you see it) =
and
> are now fighting with setup.exe to maintain it.
>
>> drwxr-xr-x+ 1 user group =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 2010-09-02 09:32 tests
>>
>> This "+" sign after permissions string indicated non-cygwin
>> permissions which was impossible to remove using cygwin's chmod. And
>> since permissions are not inherited, it was not possible to mass
>> remove them using windows either. So, I just removed all permissions
>> and forced their inheritance. That solved all problems, until I
>> updated installation using setup.exe.
>
> The "+" indicates that there are further permissions specified as ACLs
> for which the getfacl and setfacl commands should be used to view and
> manipulate, respectively. =C2=A0You would see the same behavior from ls o=
n a
> Linux system which had ACL support and extra ACLs applied to a similar
> file or directory. =C2=A0There, too, chmod would not be able to modify th=
ose
> ACLs.
>
> What your example does not indicate is that anything unintentional
> happened with the application of permissions on that example directory.
> =C2=A0Nor does it indicate that the given permissions are in any way harm=
ful
> to the maintenance of your system or the use of the files and
> directories in question.
>
> Where was that directory located? =C2=A0Did you create it, or did setup.e=
xe
> create it? =C2=A0What problems do those permissions cause?
>
>> Believe me or not, but I really did not touch any permissions until I
>> noticed that strange behaviour. And I am the only administrator.
>> Machine is not a part of any domains. So, unless it's a kind of black
>> magic, there was (and maybe still is) some issue with permissions in
>> cygwin. That is why I don't want to use them.
>
> I'm sure the Cygwin developers would be more than willing to patch any
> defect surrounding the incorrect application of permissions to files
> which is the result of Cygwin itself or setup.exe. =C2=A0Unfortunately, y=
ou
> have not demonstrated any such erroneous behavior yet. =C2=A0It seems more
> likely that you have a small misunderstanding about how the permissions
> you see work and how they are represented under Cygwin. =C2=A0Have you re=
ad
> the section of the user guide which discusses permissions under Cygwin?
>
> Perhaps, you have found a genuine defect. =C2=A0If so, you need to provide
> more data so that someone else can reproduce the problem. =C2=A0You could
> start by installing another instance of Cygwin into a fresh directory
> (this won't affect your primary installation) and then demonstrate the
> specific files that have faulty permissions and explain how those
> permissions will lead to further problems.
>
> With luck, someone will be able to explain why things are the way you
> see them such that you are comfortable accepting how Cygwin does things. =
:-)
>
> -Jeremy
>
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