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Date:	Mon, 10 May 2010 07:07:32 +0200
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Subject:	Re: Cygwin visual brand
From:	Berthold Barth <berthold DOT barth AT googlemail DOT com>
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Thanks for the feedback so far guys, I really appreciate it. I fail to
see what a hippo has to do with cygwin, but I will of course try and
honour any kind of legacy with major traction in the community.

Now, if I wanted somebody who can give the definitive go-ahead on the
design and who can clear the final version for release, who would you
suggest I talk to? I can't involve the entire community in the
redesign process, but I need somebody who can, because that is what
needs to happen.

Cheers again,
Berthold

PS: On the subject of relevance: Good design (visuals, workings, user
experience) is widely accepted to improve the users' perception of the
functionality. Beautiful things work better. Even if the new design
wouldn't attract more users and increase the interest in Cygwin in
general, it may very well cut down on people complaining.


On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Rance Hall <ranceh AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Berthold Barth
> <berthold DOT barth AT googlemail DOT com> wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I've used Cygwin on and off for a few years now, and today while I was
>> on the site I thought how much a good, recognisable logo and graphic
>> design could do for Cygwin exposure. For one, more users also mean
>> more potential contributors, to the project itself and to compatible
>> software alike (hopefully swaying some devs towards native linux +
>> cygwin instead of native win + wine). In addition, concise design
>> helps first time users find answers to their most troubling questions
>> faster and with less help, reducing support load.
>>
>> I'm a graphic and web designer in training and want to support the
>> open source movement in a way I know can make a difference (my
>> programming days in BASIC and Delphi are what seems a lifetime away).
>> I don't mind my designs being under a GPL license either.
>>
>
> First let me say congratulations on the attitude.
>
> Giving what you can.
>
> Except for this post, no one may ever know what I've given to the
> projects I support since I'm a professor and I try to use open source
> projects as baselines for examples, homework assignments and the like.
> =A0A number of people have been exposed to projects like this one who
> would not have seen it otherwise. =A0That's what I can do, hopefully
> those others can do something different.
>
>> Any thoughts from the community are greatly appreciated, although I
>> will have to work with the core maintainers to decide on what needs
>> doing and how.
>>
>
> While I agree that a nice logo and a coherent marketing approach are
> essential items for businesses, and organizations, I'm not convinced
> it would have the impact you suggest.
>
> Don't misunderstand, I would like to see you or someone else with
> similar talents, come up with an attractive marketing pack for the
> project. =A0It should include main logos for the web site, and small
> logo buttons for the web sites of the various users who like to
> advertise the products they use. =A0Back and while art and color for
> various media types should be included as well.
>
> In my experience developers are attracted to projects they personally
> like and use. =A0Some of the best backed projects have the worst art. =A0I
> do think new users would benefit from art that could be copyrighted by
> the cygwin project so that they would be able to recognize "official"
> when they saw it.
>
> Good luck in the rest of your training. =A0Thanks for giving back to the
> community.
>
>> Cheers,
>> Berthold Barth
>
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