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Date:	Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:54:09 +0200
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On 29.04.2010 07:32, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> On 04/27/2010 08:51 AM, Thomas Wolff wrote:
>>    Additional options:
>>
>>    * Update groff (with setup.exe) for a man page fix.
> Could you expand upon that? I believe I already have the latest groff.
Since you ran into the "weird characters for option dashes" problem, you 
probably don't.
The latest groff doesn't generate Unicode characters for option dashes 
anymore; it uses ASCII only so you wouldn't notice in 'man' if your 
locale environment is not set properly.

>>    * alias rxvt="LANG=C /bin/rxvt"
> Actually LANG is already set to C and that didn't fix it.
Maybe you have a older cygwin version? (In 1.7.1 "C" implied UTF-8, so 
try C.ISO8859-1, and update cygwin.)
Or LANG might be set as a shell variable only, not an environment variable?
Or it could be overridden by LC_CTYPE or LC_ALL.

>>    * alias rxvt=urxvt
> Don't have urxvt
If you wish to stay with rxvt for the reason you mentioned, migrate to 
urxvt.

> I've heard much about mintty but haven't looked into it in depth. I 
> like rxvt because it pays attention to ~/.Xdefaults. Does mintty?
No, because it's not an X application. It uses ~/.minttyrc

> I was using a non-Cygwin terminal emulator called Console (IIRC). It 
> had the nicety of being able to do transparent terminals (with some 
> oddities). Can mintty do that?
It has the feature, although it doesn't get too transparent in my 
environment...

> Another thing about Console that was nice is that it handled the pty 
> issue, I believe by actually running the Windows cmd prompt window but 
> hidden and then grabbing characters and the and translating them back 
> to the Console window. That was nice because things like Cleartool and 
> cqperl (with -d) worked and i use that stuff all day at work. If 
> mintty handles that then perhaps I'll switch to that.
There have been discussions about employing a similar workaround for 
mintty, maybe as an add-on application, but that's up to the future.

------
Thomas

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