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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:40:02 +0300
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Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found
From: wefwef wefwef <fromblewit AT gmail DOT com>
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On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Dave Korn
<dave DOT korn DOT cygwin AT googlemail DOT com> wrote:
> On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef wrote:
>
>> No, I was advised to do this to get round a nasty bug in the installer.
>
> =A0No, you were advised to do this to work around the fully correct behav=
iour
> of the installer in that it pays attention to your existing installation =
when

Do you think it should pay attention to the existing installation when
it is downloading to an entirely different directory to create an
entirely separate installation? I would class this as undesirable
behaviour whether it is by design or not.

> you run it, exactly like it is supposed to. =A0Your persistent misdescrip=
tion of
> "not behaving how I hoped it would despite the behaviour I hoped for not =
being
> documented anywhere" as a "bug" is egregious.

The cygwin setup program has some obvious gui design flaws - a two
year old can see that. It is a disaster from a usability point of
view.

>
>> I suppose in your world, it's impossible that the installer has bugs,
>> or usability problems as it quite clearly does.
>
> =A0You have asserted this, but failed to show it so far.
>
>> So based on the fact that it worked ok =A0for you, then the installer
>> has no problems at all, and any problems anyone has with it is the
>> fault of the user. Wow, that's a very simplistic view of software you
>> have.
>
> =A0It's pretty deterministic. =A0If it behaves differently for you as it =
does for
> me, that's because there is something different either in the procedures =
we
> followed or in the environment on the machines that we are following those
> procedures on. =A0This is why absolutely fully-detailed step-by-step
> descriptions are essential.
>> Dave, I gave you the full description,
>

I found it anything but deterministic, producing different results
almost every time I ran it. That means the it's either got bugs, or
it's so badly designed that mistakes are almost inevitable, either way
it's a fault with the installer.

cheers
Chris

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