Mail Archives: cygwin/2010/04/05/09:54:00
Sorry for the accidental post a moment ago...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Korn
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24
> Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found
>
> On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef wrote:
>
> > No, I was advised to do this to get round a nasty bug in
> the installer.
>
> No, you were advised to do this to work around the fully
> correct behaviour of the installer in that it pays attention
> to your existing installation when you run it, exactly like
> it is supposed to. Your persistent misdescription of "not
> behaving how I hoped it would despite the behaviour I hoped
> for not being documented anywhere" as a "bug" is egregious.
>
> > I suppose in your world, it's impossible that the installer
> has bugs,
> > or usability problems as it quite clearly does.
>
> You have asserted this, but failed to show it so far.
>
> > So based on the fact that it worked ok for you, then the installer
> > has no problems at all, and any problems anyone has with it is the
> > fault of the user. Wow, that's a very simplistic view of
> software you
> > have.
>
> It's pretty deterministic. If it behaves differently for
> you as it does for me, that's because there is something
> different either in the procedures we followed or in the
> environment on the machines that we are following those
> procedures on. This is why absolutely fully-detailed
> step-by-step descriptions are essential.
Camtasia has a 30 day trial, use it and send the flash video and I will watch
it.
>
> > Dave, I gave you the full description,
>
> Let me enumerate the points you missed then:
>
> > This is what I did:
> > renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe into
> > thinking it was a new installation ran setup, selected download
> > without installing, from ftp.fit.vutbr.cz I left everything on
> > default, and selected additionally vim, openssh, 7z, ping
> and rsync,
> > by changing to the full view, and searching for the packages The
> > download came to 86.4 MB (90,671,910 bytes)
>
> 1. Didn't mention what you did with the package directory.
> You've told me that now, but you still haven't told me when
> you deleted it in relation to that sequence of operations
> described above.
>
> 2. Didn't mention any of the directory names you were using
> or the me only/all users settings.
>
> > I then zipped up the download, and copied it over to the computer I
> > wanted to install it on.
> > unzipped, ran setup on the remote pc, changed from default
> to install
> > in the top left to install everything, and then installed.
> > It all looked fine, when I clicked on the cygwin icon on
> the desktop,
> > I got the libintl8 error.
>
> 3. Didn't explain which directory you zipped up, or what the
> directory structure was on the machine you transferred it to.
> 4. Didn't mention any of the directory names you chose in setup.exe.
> 5. Didn't mention selecting "install from local package
> directory" or other install mode.
> 6. Didn't mention the all-users/me-only setting.
>
> > After the missing libintl8 error, I went through exactly the same
> > process again, and this time it downloaded only 26.6 MB (27,915,820
> > bytes). When I copied that over to the remote pc and tried
> to install,
> > the installer program displays the 'message no packages
> found' in the
> > top left.
>
> 7. No details of how or whether you uninstalled the earlier
> attempt and/or the local package directory it left and/or
> wiped or reinstalled the whole PC.
>
> > Dave, I don't need your kind of help thanks.
>
> Actually, someone who can be bothered to take a couple of
> hours of their own time to set up some virtual machines,
> reproduce the technique you're attempting and verify that it
> can be done, then try and figure out what the differences are
> between what he did and what you did, is exactly the kind of
> help you need.
Thank you.
>
> Now, let's have a look at the logs: we'll need
> /var/log/setup.log and /var/log/setup.log.full files from the
> destination machine, please, and on the source machine they
> should be in whereever you left the local package directory.
> It may still be possible to reconstruct what went wrong.
>
> cheers,
> DaveK
>
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