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Date:	Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:11:24 -0800
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Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:11:30PM -0500, Dave Steenburgh wrote:
>> Well, now I understand why I occasionally see more instances of bash
>> in the task manager than I was expecting.  However, now I have to ask
>> why the shim doesn't appear [plainly] with ps:
>>
>>     4540       1    4540       4540    0 1003 11:48:08 /usr/bin/bash
>>     5656    4540    5656       4756    0 1003 11:48:35
>> /cygdrive/f/WINDOWS/system32/notepad
> 
> Because that's the way ps works.  It shows cygwin pids.  If you really
> want to see the shim process you do have to use the task manager.

If you want to get a much better picture of what's happening, do:

0. Task Manager--forgid-da-boud-dit! It's so, "just barely"!

1. Download, install, & start "Process Explorer v11.32" (procexp.exe) from:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

2. Bring up a Cygwin shell and execute "notepad" -- leave them be.

3. Bring up another Cygwin shell and execute "ps"

Now you can see the various Cygwin process'/shim relationships and 
attributes, graphically, in "Process Explorer" and how the PIDs n WIDS n 
such from the "ps" listing relate.

It's pretty cool!

Lowell Anderson


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