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Subject:	Re: Does anyone use insight on cygwin?
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Charles Wilson wrote:
| (1) How do you debug the Xserver if your debugger depends on it?
|
| Of course, there is nobody currently trying to debug the Xserver on
| cygwin -- or develop it in any way -- so that's most likely a moot
| point. And besides, this same issue faces *nix developers: there are
| ways around it. For instance, use a stable Xserver on a different
| display, and run insight on that display to debug the unstable target
| Xserver (or a program running on that Xserver).

Or in our case, use Xming.

| (2) Red Hat's paying customers expected a standalone debugger, and would
| balk at a Xserver requirement.
|
| This is even more true now, I would imagine, as cygwin-xfree has been
| all-but-dead for years. (What? Your debugger requires an Xserver, but
| you don't provide a current one?)  Hopefully some of these problems will
| soon improve, at least on the X-library, if not X-server, side --
| </raises beer vaguely in Yaakov's direction>

Keep in mind that Tk requires only libX11, so it's fairly light on the
client side.

| Also, this may impact the ability to do
| error_start=X:\somewhere\insight.exe -- but that's probably not a big
deal.

| I could certainly see splitting the distribution into two packages. This
| means that 'gdb -w' would fail in strange and wonderful ways if the
| "insight" package with all of its tcl scripts were not installed,
| but...maybe that's okay.

FWIW Debian provides gdb and insight in separate *source* packages,
neither of which depend on the other:

http://packages.debian.org/sid/gdb
http://packages.debian.org/sid/insight


Yaakov
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