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Subject: Re: Shared home dir, samba workgroups and ssh
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Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>  Here's the story. I use Cygwin on my XP desktop. I like having a home 
> directory on Windows that is the same home directory on Unix/Linux 
> machines. Often companies offer access to your Unix/Linux home directory 
> via Samba. Also, often companies do not bother to set up a Samba server 
> wish participates in a domain, so the Samba server is configured as 
> being in a workgroup.
> 
> Now for a long time I struggled with this. I would map //<samba 
> server>/<home share> -> my H drive then mount the H drive as /home and 
> make sure my Cygwin /etc/password referred to my home directory of 
> /home/$USER. All is great.
> 
> But when dealing with Samba servers who are configured into workgroups 
> innocuous activities in Cygwin would elicit permission denied messages. 
> For example, touching a file in the home directory and indeed even 
> vi'ing a file, etc. Creating a file within Windows Explorer or using 
> other Windows oriented tools would work just fine. Files created on the 
> Unix/Linux side would also work fine but when looked at from Cygwin on 
> the PC would have odd (read "nobody") ownerships and permissions.
> 
> Of course as Cygwin is often not supported by the typical company's IT 
> department and because many people do not attempt to utilize Cygwin 
> fully often requests for assistance and change fell on deaf ears...
> 
> Eventually I figured out that my Windows SID in /etc/passwd is the SID 
> of my domain user and since the Samba server was not in the domain my 
> SID does not authenticate properly. Then I had a break through in that I 
> realized that I was using SMBNTSEC as well as NTSEC in my Cygwin 
> environment. I figured "Yeah I want to use the same Windows security for 
> SMB mounted drives too". This is where my problem lies and it's because 
> the Samba server configured by the client does not participate in the 
> Windows domain from which I've logged in.
> 
> Now I'm pretty sure that Samba could be configured properly into a 
> Windows domain as Samba can be configured as a PDC or a BDC, but many 
> clients don't bother to go that far. So why is Windows able to deal with 
> this but not Cygwin?
> 
> I believe that this is because within Samba a very basic approach is 
> kept towards storing of user identification information. Indeed basic 
> Samba just has an smbpasswd file which is much like your typical 
> Unix/Linux /etc/passwd file and it is not designed to carry extra 
> information about users and machine accounts as well as multiple groups 
> and trust associations, etc. Even Samba documents talks about hooking 
> Samba up to either LDAP or what they call a Trivial DataBase (TDB) in 
> order to store such additional Windows only information.
> 
> So I thought the simple solution was to remove SMBNTSEC from my Cygwin 
> environment and all would be fine. And indeed it is! Well almost...
> 
> Along comes ssh... So I like to use ssh to log into various Unix/Linux 
> systems as I work. And again I share my home directory between Windows 
> and Unix/Linux. Finally I like setting up passwordless public key ssh 
> login as I'm not one of those who likes having to type in his password 
> hundreds of times a day. But ssh's is picky about permissions of your 
> ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/id_<type> key files. When ssh'ing from Cygwin to a 
> Unix/Linux box I am now receiving the following:
> 
>    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>    @         WARNING: UNPROTECTED PRIVATE KEY FILE!          @
>    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>    Permissions 0644 for '/home/x0062320/.ssh/id_rsa' are too open.
>    It is recommended that your private key files are NOT accessible by
>    others.
>    This private key will be ignored.
>    bad permissions: ignore key: /home/x0062320/.ssh/id_rsa
>    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>    @         WARNING: UNPROTECTED PRIVATE KEY FILE!          @
>    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>    Permissions 0644 for '/home/x0062320/.ssh/id_dsa' are too open.
>    It is recommended that your private key files are NOT accessible by
>    others.
>    This private key will be ignored.
>    bad permissions: ignore key: /home/x0062320/.ssh/id_dsa
>    x0062320 AT stashu's password:
> 
> And, of course, I need to type in my password again! What I believe is 
> happening is that because my home directory is SMB mounted and SMBNTSEC 
> is off then Cygwin reports that files like ~/.ssh/id_rsa are 0644 even 
> if I change them on Unix/Linux to 0600. So, for example:
> 
>    <unix box>$ ls -l ~/.ssh/id_rsa
>    -rw-------  1 x0062320 generic 887 Aug 31 16:43
>    /home/x0062320/.ssh/id_rsa
> 
> While:
> 
>    <cygwin>$ ls -l ~/.ssh/id_rsa
>    -rw-r--r-- 1 x0062320 Domain Users 887 Aug 31 16:43
>    /home/x0062320/.ssh/id_rsa
> 
> Is there any way to work around this problem (short of reconfiguring the 
> Samba server)?
> 

Not that I know of, no.  You'd need to turn off "StrictModes" in the server
for this to work.  An alternative might be for you to mount your .ssh
directory to something local.

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