Mail Archives: cygwin/2006/08/16/09:05:53
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Grant Brown" <s_g_brown AT aapt DOT net DOT au>
To: "Linda Walsh" <cygwin AT tlinx DOT org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Permission denied Permission denied Permission deniedPermission
denied Permission denied Permission denied
> Hi All,
> I have been watching this list for about six months now and I am just
> beginning to see where some people are coming from.
> Yes, Windows is very poorly documented. But who reads the documentation if
> the program they are running just works the way they expect it to?
> Consider the addict "When all else fails, read the manual" Programs that
> work for people do not need a manual.
> On the 16/7 I updated cygwin and have not had start-xserver going ever
> since.
> It was working before I updated cygwin, and I have not had the time or
> answers from xygwin-xfree to fix it.
> At the moment cpp.info on my computer is corrupted. When I have time I
> will find which package it is in and reinstall that packeage.
> I found dpkg when I installed all of cygwin. I tried to run it and it
> failed to run. I have got the stable debian source package and I am in the
> process of getting it running. I spend a bit of time on it now and then. I
> was reading documentation and that is why I know that cpp.info is
> corrupted on my computer.
> Let me assure you that if the dpkg installed by cygwin worked I would not
> be reading documentation.
> It is the same with start-xserver.
> Yes, I too think microsoft windows is poorly documented but who cares just
> so long as the programs can be used successfully. It only needs one person
> to fix problem and then share the solution and everybody else benifits.
> Yours Sincerely Stephen Grant Brown
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Walsh" <cygwin AT tlinx DOT org>
> To: <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Permission denied Permission denied Permission
> deniedPermission denied Permission denied Permission denied
>
>
>> Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:53:55PM +1200, Steve Keate wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are there any useful resources on finding out exactly what security
>>>> mode
>>>> to choose when using Cygwin, also, are there any resources on how to
>>>> use
>>>> mkpasswd and what arguments to use. I have scoured the net for two days
>>>> looking for anything.
>>>>
>>>> Is cygwin now abandonware, or is support just abyssmally poor?
>>>>
>>> http://isbn.nu/0671723650
>>>
>> ---
>> Ah yeah...one of my favorite books...it's worked so well for me...
>> (*cough*)...um...well it surely would if I my brain was engaged before
>> acting/speaking/writing...
>>> Only a very brief period of scouring the net should have led you
>>> to the conclusion that this list is the primary vehicle for support.
>>>
>>> Since the list archives should indicate to you that there is a great
>>> deal of traffic on this list, I'm at a loss to know where the
>>> "abandonware" comes from.
>> If I looked over this list with all of the compassionate, caring
>> support,
>> I might experience feelings of things being out-of-control and possibly
>> experience "fear"....perhaps he spoke out of frustration?
>> Even though I, of course (*cough*), am never affected by such base
>> emotions. (*cough-cough*) (sorry about the cough -- something must be
>> caught in my throat, ya know...;^}), I try to have compassion for those
>> who do -- especially those I don't know and/or that don't know me.
>> Working on Windows (even with the benefits of Cygwin) is a mightily
>> frustrating experience for many (most?) people.
>>
>> But to pseudo-address the original posters question:
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:53:55PM +1200, Steve Keate wrote:
>>> Are there any useful resources on finding out exactly what security mode
>>> to choose when using Cygwin,
>> ---
>> If you can tell me the useful resource(s) you use that lists
>> "exactly what security mode to choose when using" Windows, I or someone
>> else might be able to answer the question for cygwin (in terms of the
>> Windows-document detailing its security mode.
>>
>>> also, are there any resources on how to use
>>> mkpasswd and what arguments to use. I have scoured the net for two days
>>> looking for anything.
>>>
>> ---
>> Why do you want to use Cygwin? It seeks to provide a POSIX
>> (portable unix spec designed for easier interoperability between
>> different unix flavors (including Linux)). If you aren't familiar
>> with the POSIX (unix or linux-like) environment, you may not find
>> Cygwin very easy to use or learn. But to answer your question, usually
>> under *nix type systems, you learn about commands by typing:
>> man <command-name> #, where <command-name> in this case would be
>> "mkpasswd". This presumes you have the package installed. But if
>> you are familiar with *nix systems, you would have likely already
>> looked there. I'm not certain, but if you have installed the package
>> and when you typed "man mkpasswd", you got back "No manual entry
>> for mkpasswd", something may be wrong with your installation and
>> you might try reinstalling the mkpasswd package (it's likely in the
>> Base-section in setup).
>>
>> Hope this helps somewhat. If you want to see more info on how
>> cygwin tries to do mapping between its userid's and NT's userid's,
>> There's a reasonably good writeup @
>> *http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html
>> *That page is part of the user-guide, which you can access by
>> removing the "ntsec.html" part from the end of the above address.
>>
>> Hope this helps, and believe me, I can understand your frustration.
>> In general, MS-Windows is so well documented...NOT! :-)
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
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