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From:	"Charli Li" <KBarticle889459 AT aim DOT com>
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Subject:	RE: Newer cygwin packages available
Date:	Sat, 27 May 2006 21:31:46 -0400
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All this info I got was from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub.  BTW, that webpage you
referenced might be misleading.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com [mailto:cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com]On Behalf
> Of Charles Wilson
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:26 PM
> To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
> Subject: Re: Newer cygwin packages available
>
>
> Tim Prince wrote:
> > Charli Li wrote:
> >> There are some newer cygwin packages available from the original
> >> vendor(s)
> >> that I would like to bring to your attention:
> >>  -----------------------------------------------
> >> |Package name|setup.exe version|vendor's version|
> >> |GTK+2       |2.6.10           |2.9.1           |
>
> The gtk website http://www.gtk.org/download/ says
> "The current stable version of GTK+ is 2.8."
>
> Following the download link for 2.8, we see:
> LATEST-ATK-1.10.3
> LATEST-GLIB-2.8.6
> LATEST-GTK-2.8.18
> LATEST-PANGO-1.10.4
>
> So, IF the current maintainer wants to update, and only if, then I'd
> recommend these versions, not the ones you've listed (well, you got atk
> correct),
>
> >> |glib2       |2.6.6            |2.11.1          |
> >> |pango       |1.8.1            |1.13.1          |
> >> |ATK         |1.9.1            |1.10.3          |
>
> Just because the gtk.org front page announces availability of something,
> does NOT mean it is the latest *stable* release.  GTK is really really
> bad about distinguishing stable vs. development on their front page
> (heck, there are 4 -- count'em, 4 -- ongoing development series of glib:
>
> 2.8 (stable), 2.9, 2.10, and 2.11. Each of which appears in a directory
> with different ongoing development versions of pango (and sometimes gtk
> and atk, as well).
>
> Because of this, my opinion of the gtk developers is pretty low -- it
> appears to be one of the most chaotic "projects" ever conceived.  So I'd
> really REALLY suggest staying with the "stable" version...or maybe a
> little behind it <G>.  (also, anything newer than 2.6 requires cairo
> and, optionally, glitz...which may or may not be very stable on cygwin
> -- I make no claim either way).
>
> > Did you test them?  Offering to become cygwin maintainer if consensus
> > develops?
> >
>
> Indeed.
>
> --
> Chuck
>
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