Mail Archives: cygwin/2006/03/09/15:50:16
From: "Dave Korn"
> On 09 March 2006 19:37, Larrie Carr wrote:
>
>> Sure I RTFM'ed and yes it says that. But I would argue that Keep does
>> not
>> exactly work the way that you say it does. So not using Keep does not
>> indicate RTFM status.
>
> Well, since keep ABSOLUTELY DOES work EXACTLY how I described it, you
> really
> need not only to RTFM, but also to ACTUALLY TRY this stuff out before you
> pontificate.
>
Believe me, before I wrote that email, I both went to the website, RTFM and
did a test run on setup with Keep to make sure that I wasn't going down the
wrong path.
>> If you select a new uninstalled package within the category page before
>> hitting Keep, then hitting Keep will deselect the newly selected package.
>
> Yes. That's what "Keep" means. It "Keep"s things as they are. If "the
> way
> that they are" is "uninstalled", then "Keep"ing it the same way it is
> means
> not installing it. That's why I told you to hit "Keep" first and THEN
> select
> the package.
>
website I read http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html
Where exactly on the website that it says "keep things as they are". The
manual listed above does not mention anything about the Keep radio button.
"Once you have an existing Cygwin installation, the setup.exe chooser is
also used to manage your Cygwin installation. Information on installed
packages is kept in the /etc/setup/ directory of your Cygwin installation;
if setup.exe cannot find this directory it will act just like you had no
Cygwin installation. If setup.exe finds a newer version of an installed
package available, it will automatically mark it to be upgraded. To
Uninstall, Reinstall, or get the Source for an existing package, click on
Keep to toggle it. Also, to avoid the need to reboot after upgrading, make
sure to close all Cygwin windows and stop all Cygwin processes before
setup.exe begins to install the upgraded package"
The only radio buttons talked about are the "Prev" and "Exp" radio buttons.
But by this description, it only says the radio buttons affects which
version the chooser shows - not selecting a bunch of packages to update.
"The final feature of the setup.exe chooser is for Previous and Experimental
packages. By default the chooser shows only the current version of each
package, though mirrors have at least one previous version and occasionally
there is a testing or beta version of a package available. To see these
package, click on the Prev or Exp radio button. Be warned, however, that the
next time you run setup.exe it will try to replace old or experimental
versions with the current stable version. "
The only place I can find after much googling, reading, playing with setup
is that the radio button has floating text that appears if you hold your
mouse over long enough that says "It selects all packages to its currently
installed version. This is equivalent to telling setup not make any changes
to any package." So yes, if I RFRB I would have agree that it works as you
describe it should.
But after much playing with setup with Prev or Exp, I would say the manual
is incorrct on how the Prev and Exp radio buttons work which goes to my
point about Keep. It does more than "to see these package" as it goes right
to selecting everything that has
> Do you really believe that doing things backwards in time should make no
> difference to how they turn out? If I told you to boil the kettle, then
> pour
> the water into the teapot, would you write back saying "Well, what you
> said
> doesn't work because if I pour the water into the teapot first and then
> boil
> the kettle I get a lousy cold cup of tea"? Well, that's what you've just
> done. I can't help people who are unaware that time is directional.
>
>> It probably something about going from Cur version of the package (which
>> was
>> just selected) to the Keep version (which isn't "install" - so what you
>> just
>> selected to install just got deselected).
If that's how you want it to work. Fine. But don't jump around about RTFM.
This is the end of my thread.
Larrie.
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