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From:	"Herb Martin" <HerbM AT learnquick DOT com>
To:	<cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Subject:	RE: SETUP: In-use files have been replaced
Date:	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:53:25 -0500
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X-Sign-LQC:	HerbM AT learnquick DOT com/2005-10-18 18:53:34/<cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>=ghevhcjx

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com 
> [mailto:cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com] On Behalf Of Brian Dessent
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:48 PM
> To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
> Subject: Re: SETUP: In-use files have been replaced
> 
> Herb Martin wrote:
> 
> > Wouldn't we also need to stop all Shells or any other 
> CygWin process?
> 
> Yes, of course.
> 
> > And:  If there are not CygWin processes (services, shells, 
> other apps) 
> > is it considered a bug if Setup cannot complete the update?
> 
> What do you mean "cannot complete the update"?  Setup should 
> always be able to perform the updates, but if files are in 
> use it will have to schedule them to be replaced on the next 
> reboot.  There is nothing it can do about this as it's a 
> restriction of the windows filesystem.

The context of the discussion was in use files requiring
a reboot to complete the update so (obviously) I mean:

Would it be considered a bug if all CygWin services, shells,
and apps are shutdown but a reboot is still required by
Setup?

> > I had to use source to compile a module with different from default 
> > options.
> > 
> > How can that module be installed so that Setup will STOP trying to 
> > replace it?
> 
> Don't use the same location as the packaged version.

Oddly enough, I didn't do that (for accidental reasons)
and suspected that my mistake was in NOT using the download
location.

> > (...and thus not need me to uncheck the item, or ensure it is 
> > unchecked, on each  run of Setup.
> 
> If you replace a packaged file with one of your own, you will 
> almost certainly encounter problems at some later point.  All 
> package management systems work this way, which is why you 
> must use the designated locations (/usr/local, /opt, etc.) or 
> otherwise inform the package system of your desire (for 
> example, debian/apt has
> "diversions".)  You will have the same thing happen on a 
> linux system if you replace a file in /usr/lib with a 
> self-compiled one.

So what is the method to teach Setup that the file
has been updated.

The versions are the same LEVEL/source, but my version
has been specially (switches/settings) make compiled.


--
Herb Martin



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