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From: "Victor Atkinson" <atkinson AT syrres DOT com>
To: <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Subject: RE: Bash behavior change 2.05b-17 vs 2.05b-16
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:23:54 -0400
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> Victor Atkinson <atkinson <at> syrres.com> writes:
> 
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I recently updated my Cygwin installation from version 1.5.11-1 to
1.5.17-1.
>> As I did so, I also updated all of my packages, including updating Bash
from
>> version 2.05b-16 to version 2.05b-17.
> 
> As long as you are upgrading, why not go all the way to cygwin-1.5.18-1
and 
> bash-3.0-8?
> 

Unfortunately, I had just upgraded to cygwin-1.5.17-1 and Bash 2.0b-17 a day
or two before the most recent versions came out.  I don't usually like to
upgrade too often, so that I can avoid confusion in versions while debugging
problems, should they occur.  I try to run at least a few months between
upgrades.

>> 
>> After updating, a Bash script that I use for backing up my computer using
>> WinZip failed to operate.  After some debugging, I concluded that the
>> behavior of Bash when calling the WinZip command-line executable had
>> changed.  Specifically, the treatment of the backslash '\' when launching
>> executables seems to have changed.  Version 2.05b-17 seems to no longer
>> accept '\' in the path name of an executable, even when protected or
>> escaped.
>> 
> 
> Are you sure it was bash and not cygwin that changed behavior?  Bash
should not 
> do anything special with backslash; it passes filenames to cygwin as they
were 
> typed.  Maybe it was cygwin's behavior of \ handling in converting POSIX
paths 
> back to Windows paths, particularly in the exec*() family of calls, that 
> changed.  However, I noticed that when doing "strace bash -c 
> c:\\\\winnt\\\\system32\\\\notepad.exe" (double quoting, since one level
is 
> stripped before strace, the other is stripped by the bash being traced)
that 
> bash treats c:\winnt\system32\notepad.exe as a relative path rather than 
> absolute, and tries to prepend PATH entries to it.
> 

I believe that it is Bash itself that is causing this behavior, and not some
underlying Cygwin mechanism, for two reasons:  First, the backslash format
of the command works fine under zsh, tcsh, and csh.  Second, backslashed
paths work fine under Bash, if used as parameters to built-in commands like
cd, or external commands like wzzip.exe.

I recreated your results using "strace bash -c
c:\\\\windows\\\\system32\\\\notepad.exe", and I agree that it Bash seems to
be treating the backslashed path version of the command as though it is a
relative pathed command, whereas the command using forward slashes does not
result in a search along the path.

> 
> My solution - DON'T USE BACKSLASHES in cygwin if you can help it.  Cygwin 
> understands forward slash, and provides /cygdrive/c, so you might as well
use 
> them.  Besides, cygpath(1) is there to help you convert between Windows
and 
> POSIX path names.
> 

I understand your advice, and can follow it as a very minor nit that I may
forget occasionally when I am typing.  I am more concerned that since I am
the local "guru" on the Cygwin environment (and I use the term very
loosely), that I may get inundated with questions, when/if other people
update.  (I installed Cygwin on several people's PC for them, but it was
version 1.5.11-1 or earlier.  On the other hand, I am not sure how many
other people know enough to try to update their installations.)

> 
> --
> Eric Blake
> volunteer cygwin bash maintainer
> 
> 
> 
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I will probably just update to the latest Cygwin and Bash versions, and see
what happens.

Thanks!

**************************************************
* Victor Atkinson
* Syracuse, NY, USA
* atkinson AT syrres DOT com
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