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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:32:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Roy Wiseman <roy_wiseman AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk>
Subject: Re: passwd & group file problems ?
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
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Hi,

I guess the main question that I'm asking from the
below is :

on a clean system without cygwin where setup.exe is
run, after the files have been installed to c:\cygwin
(or wherever), how do I run the process that
binds/registers these files into a working cygwin
system ?  (i.e. the process that deals with mount
points, security files and hard / symbolic links).

this process is obviously run every time that
setup.exe is run, so is this procedure a secret locked
in setup.exe which, instead of a well known process
that anyone can run ?

I think if I can find out this process, then all the
problems that I have will be very simply solved
completely :)

Best Regards,

Roy.


--- Roy Wiseman <roy_wiseman AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk> wrote:

> Hi Igor,
> 
> those mount commands don't seem to do much for this
> situation. same problems.
> you mention the hard and symbolic links, are created
> during the postinstall phase. this is very
> interesting, are there no commands to make that
> process rerun outside of the postinstall phase ?
> I've attached my cygcheck.out file here.
> 
> my current situation is :
> - mkpasswd (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
> command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing
> - mkgroup (with -l and/or -d) does nothing, this
> command hangs for over 30 minutes, and does nothing
> - mount -m > /mounts.bat is no help, same errors
> apply.
> - is there some way to make the postinstall process
> kick off again, outside of the setup process ?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Roy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roy Wiseman wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I work in a corporate environment, with very
> > limited
> > > internet access, and I want to distribute cygwin
> > to
> > > some sysadmins who can make good use of these
> > tools. I
> > > cannot run the cygwin setup across the internet,
> > and I
> > > do not want to download all the binaries to put
> on
> > the
> > > server. We want to package a specific subset of
> > cygwin
> > > that we require into a package that we can
> > distribute
> > > to sysadmins. I've done this and it works very
> > well,
> > 
> > I would be a bit cautious in this situation.  It's
> > true that most Cygwin
> > programs will work just fine when copied from
> > machine to machine.
> > However, some other things, specifically hard and
> > symbolic links, are
> > created during the postinstall phase, and may be
> > specific to the
> > installation machine.  Unless the other machines
> > have exactly the same
> > configuration, there may be inconsistencies in the
> > copied installation.
> > 
> > You'll also need to replicate the mounts, which I
> > suspect is your current
> > problem anyway.  Run 'mount -m > /mounts.bat' on
> the
> > machine you use as
> > the template installation, and run /mounts.bat
> after
> > copying.  And you
> > will need to regenerate /etc/passwd and /etc/group
> > (since that information
> > is also machine-specific).  You can add the two
> > commands reported
> > (mkpasswd and mkgroup) to the end of /mounts.bat.
> > 
> > > except for the passwd and group security
> > information
> > > generation which is tied to the machine the
> > install
> > > was done on, and I have no idea how to change
> > this.
> > >
> > > The message I get on running cygwin.bat on any
> > other
> > > system but the one where it is installed is :
> > >
> > > C:\cygwin>cygwin
> > > Your group is currently "mkpasswd".  This
> > indicates that
> > > the /etc/passwd (and possibly /etc/group) files
> > should
> > > be rebuilt.
> > > See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then,
> > for
> > > example, run
> > > mkpasswd -l [-d] > /etc/passwd
> > > mkgroup  -l [-d] > /etc/group
> > > Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain
> > users.
> > >
> > > I expect this is to do with the passwd and group
> > files
> > > from what I know of unix, and these instructions
> > have
> > > something to do with the solution, but I have
> > tried
> > > these commands in every possible way that I can
> > think
> > > of, but cannot get this error to disappear and
> > > properly register cygwin for the user. I've
> tried
> > > googling and all the commands I can think of,
> but
> > I'm
> > > stumped.
> > >
> > > Please, can someone tell me how to correct this
> in
> > the
> > > cygwin system so that I can distribute it to the
> > > sysadmins that would like to use these excellent
> > tools?
> > 
> > It would have been better had you followed the
> > instructions in the Cygwin
> > problem reporting guidelines at
> > <http://cygwin.com/problems.html> and
> > attached the output of "cygcheck -svr" on the
> > failing system.  Without
> > that information, the above guess (missing mounts)
> > is all I can offer.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > 	Igor
> > -- 
> > 				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
> >       |\      _,,,---,,_		pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu
> > ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		igor AT watson DOT ibm DOT com
> >      |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		Igor Pechtchanski,
> > Ph.D.
> >     '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a
> > JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!
> > 
> > "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon
> > tonight for a total
> > Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27
> > 2004, 12:01 pm EDT
> > 
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> 
> 
> 
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> Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
> Current System Time: Thu Jun 09 17:08:20 2005
> 
> Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service
> Pack 1
> 
> Path:	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
> 	C:\cygwin\bin
> 	C:\cygwin\bin
> 	C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin
> 	c:\WINNT\system32
> 	c:\WINNT
> 	c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem
> 	c:\Program Files\Citrix\ICA Client_01
> 	c:\CmdTools
> 	c:\DOSTOOLS
> 	c:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322
> 	C:\cygwin\bin
> 	c:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.0.3705
> 	"C
> 	C:\cygwin\Program Files\Symantec\Norton Ghost
> 2003\"
> 
> Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
> UID: 400(nlwiso)   GID: 401(mkpasswd)
> 401(mkpasswd)
> 
> Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
> UID: 400(nlwiso)    GID: 401(mkpasswd)
> 544(Administrators) 545(Users)         
> 401(mkpasswd)
> 
> SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
> WinDir: C:\WINNT
> 
> HOME = `y:\'
> MAKE_MODE = `unix'
> PWD = `/cygdrive/y'
> USER = `nlwiso'
> 
> ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All
> Users'
> APPDATA = `\\NLFS-00012\nlwiso$\Application Data'
> COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
> COMPUTERNAME = `NLWS-00114046'
> COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'
> CVS_RSH = `/bin/ssh'
> HOMEDRIVE = `Y:'
> HOMEPATH = `\'
> HOMESHARE = `\\NLFS-00012\NLWiso$'
> HOSTNAME = `nlws-00114046'
> INFOPATH =
>
`/usr/local/info:/usr/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/autotool/devel/info:/usr/autotool/stable/info:'
> LOGONSERVER = `\\NLDC-00010'
> MANPATH =
>
`/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/autotool/devel/man:'
> NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `2'
> OLDPWD = `/usr/bin'
> OS = `Windows_NT'
> OSVER = `NT51'
> PACKAGESPATH1 = `\\NLIN-00023\DSP$\PACKAGES'
> PACKAGESPATH = `\\NLIN-00002\DSP$\PACKAGES'
> PATHEXT =
> `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
> PRINTER = `\\10.57.72.104\HP LaserJet 5'
> PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
> PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 15 Model 2
> Stepping 9, GenuineIntel'
> PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `15'
> PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0209'
> PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files'
> PROMPT = `$P$G'
> PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
> \033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
> $ '
> SESSIONNAME = `Console'
> SHLVL = `1'
> SMS_LOCAL_DIR = `C:\WINNT'
> SMS_LOCAL_DIR_USER = `C:\WINNT'
> SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:'
> SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT'
> TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\nlwiso\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> TERM = `cygwin'
> TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\nlwiso\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> USERDNSDOMAIN = `EMEA.ABNAMRO-NET.COM'
> USERDOMAIN = `EMEA'
> USERNAME = `nlwiso'
> USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\nlwiso'
> WINDIR = `C:\WINNT'
> _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck'
> POSIXLY_CORRECT = `1'
> 
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus
> Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus
> Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
> Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
>   (default) = `/cygdrive'
>   cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
> Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
>   (default) = `C:\cygwin'
>   flags = 0x0000000a
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
> Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
>   (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin'
>   flags = 0x0000000a
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
> Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
>   (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib'
>   flags = 0x0000000a
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus
> Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
> 
> a:  fd             N/A    N/A                    
> c:  hd  NTFS      8999Mb  44% CP CS UN PA FC    
> DRIVE-C
> d:  hd  NTFS     29162Mb  96% CP CS UN PA FC    
> DATA
> e:  fd  FAT        968Mb  14% CP    UN           1GB
> VIKING
> f:  fd  FAT32      116Mb  68% CP    UN          
> CF-CARD-128
> g:  fd  FAT         61Mb   1% CP    UN           USB
> MEMORY
> h:  fd             N/A    N/A                    
> k:  net NTFS    138915Mb  48% CP CS UN PA FC    
> DRIVE-D
> p:  net NTFS    560047Mb  93% CP CS UN PA FC    
> DRIVE-D
> s:  net NTFS    302512Mb  99% CP    UN PA        260
> w:  net NTFS    474097Mb  89% CP CS UN PA FC    
> DRIVE-H
> x:  net            N/A    N/A                    
> y:  net NTFS    560047Mb  93% CP CS UN PA FC    
> DRIVE-D
> z:  cd             N/A    N/A                    
> 
> C:\cygwin      /          system  binmode
> C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  binmode
> C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  binmode
> .              /cygdrive  system  binmode,cygdrive
> 
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\awk.exe
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cp.exe
> Not Found: cpp (good!)
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
> Not Found: gcc
> Not Found: gdb
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\grep.exe
> Not Found: ld
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
> Not Found: make
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\mv.exe
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\rm.exe
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sed.exe
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
> Found: C:\cygwin\bin\tar.exe
> 
>    55k 2004/09/14 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/9/14
> 6:16
>    18k 2004/07/06 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cygcharset-1.dll" v0.0
> ts=2004/7/6 20:09
>    40k 2004/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform-8.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cygform-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2004/10/10
> 10:33
>    45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25
> 7:28
>    35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9
> 7:03
>    48k 2003/08/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform7.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cygform7.dll" v0.0 ts=2003/8/9
> 11:25
>    28k 2003/07/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm-3.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cyggdbm-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2003/7/20
> 9:58
>    30k 2003/08/11 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm-4.dll -
> os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                   "cyggdbm-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2003/8/11
> 4:12
>    19k 2003/03/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0
> img=1.0 sys=4.0
> 
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