Mail Archives: cygwin/2005/05/28/00:38:56
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 08:50:54PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 05:04:02PM -0700, Andy Ross wrote:
> >Christopher Faylor quipped:
> >> It seems pretty clear to me that if this is a really serious problem
> >> for you then the best way to get it fixed is to gain more than zero
> >> knowledge of cygwin.
> >
> >Gee, thanks. Very helpful. Can you at least type the commands in and
> >verify the problem for me before you get snippy? I said "zero
> >knowlege" in an attempt to be modest*, but if you really want to get
> >into a tussle about developer credentials, I'm happy to oblige.
> >
> >* I mean, come on: it's a 20 line program that shows a 15x performance
> > regression in a real-life, non-trivial application
> > (http://www.flightgear.org), takes all of 5 commands to verify that
> > can be copied right out of the source code, and even comes with a
> > (IMHO) pretty insightful guess as to where the problem might lie.
> > Most developers have erotic fantasies about this kind of bug report.
>
> Gee, I'm sorry you thought I was being "snippy". You apparently missed
> that I was just providing you with some obvious advice.
>
> You state that this is a "rather serious problem". It seems like if this
> was a really serious problem you'd be actively working towards solving it
> rather than sending out email and hoping to get lucky. If you think it
> is malloc that is causing the problem then instrumenting malloc to prove
> your assertion is not that much work. Building the dll is probably not
> five commands but it is not a heck of a lot more than that.
>
But Mr. Faylor, no offense, but you *are* snippy. You complain about
lack of clue in bug reports, lack of motivation for people to pick up the
code and play with it, yet you *constantly* throw cold water on
people's motivation to feel good about dealing with cygwin.
Just some advice - take a step back and get a good meta-view at yourself.
You could seriously use a huge helping of your own advice and fix
the issue of people complaining about your attitude.
There are two ways of seeing it - everybody (or a huge subset of everybody)
is wrong and I'm squeaky clean, or yes I could improve my attitude in how
to deal with people.
I know this cultural issue has deterred me in the past; I keep hoping that
things'll change and I (and possibly many others) would change their mind
and start assisting cygwin.
Ed
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