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Date:	Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:13:59 -0500 (EST)
From:	Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu>
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To:	Reini Urban <rurban AT x-ray DOT at>
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Subject:	Re: ls /dev/*
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Reini Urban wrote:

> Sam Steingold schrieb:
>
> > > * Christopher Faylor [2004-11-03 10:18:18 -0500]:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 09:08:44AM -0000, Chris January wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > * Christopher Faylor [2004-11-02 15:01:13 -0500]:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 02:55:39PM -0500, Sam Steingold wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > why isn't /dev a more "usual" directory?
> > > > > > > cd /dev, ls /dev all fail, while
> > > > > > > cat /dev/clipboard works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No one has implemented the special handling required for /dev
> > > > > > which would enable things like opendir/readdir or cd to work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, I guessed that much.  I also know about "PTC".
> > > > > (fhandler_proc.cc is too long,
> > > > > I guess fhandler_dev.cc would be just as long, and I suspect that
> > > > > fhandler_dev.cc is not the only this missing).
> >
> > > My plan was for /dev to go away as a special mount.  Now that mknod
> > > works, this is more doable than it was in 2002.
> >
> > Could you please elaborate?
> > are you saying that "/dev/" will go away altogether?

Right now /dev is a virtual directory (or, in CGF's words, "special
mount").  /dev will eventually become a regular directory populated with
device files.

> > where will /dev/clipboard reside?
>
> he meant:
> mkdir /dev
> and populate that with your favorite mknod initializer.
> igor posted one some months ago.

Correction: I posted a script that would create dummy files in /dev, so
that "ls /dev" works.  Granted, the script could be adapted to create the
actual device files using mknod.
	Igor

> BTW:
> colinux uses /dev/cobd<n>
> I'd really like to try to mount this beast in cygwin also.
> (mke2fs => ddk as in colinux)

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