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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:46:08 -0400
From: Christopher Faylor <cgf-no-personal-reply-please AT cygwin DOT com>
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: Re: Known Issues: document missing POSIX compliance and other unexpected behaviour
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 06:15:10PM +0200, Reini Urban wrote:
>Christopher Faylor schrieb:
>>On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 05:11:03PM +0200, Reini Urban wrote:
>>>I found no document where missing POSIX functionality is listed
>>>and where other non-POSIX but expected typical UNIX functionality and/or
>>>behaviour are different or missing. The user guide is a bit short on that.
>>
>>The only way such a document would be useful would be if it was
>>rigorously maintained.
>
>ok.
>
>>You show the reason why below when you quote out-of-date parts of the
>>existing documentation.
>>It is certainly worthwhile to sweep through the docs and get everything
>>up-to-date, though.
>>
>>
>>>select():
>>>see http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/highlights.html#OV-HI-SELECT
>>>TODO
>>
>>This points to a page which explains (in an outdated manner)
>>implementation details of select.  I don't see how it applies.
>
>It applies as a TODO item. :)

TODO... what?

>>>processes
>>>---------
>>>See the user-guide on fork, ipc, COFF, ...
>>
>>COFF?
>
>Yes. Imho, the topic "processes" also includes loading a process.
>And handling the data structures in which the process is stored,
>even if not active ("loaded").
>And COFF is good to known/explain in contrast to ELF or a.out.
>Also for debugging purposes.

I guess I've lost track of what you're talking about.  I don't see
any reason to know about COFF if you are debugging.

>>>fork:
>>>see http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC74 and 
>>>http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/highlights.html#OV-HI-PROCESS
>>>
>>>PID's:
>>>Unfortunately cygwin must use seperate PID's than the
>>>underlying windows PID's.
>>>http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/highlights.html#OV-HI-PROCESS
>>
>>The documentation is out of date.  This is not true.
>>
>>I think I'll stop here.  You're showing that it would be worthwhile to
>>go through the document and look for stuff that is out of date.
>>
>>I guess that would be a job for Corinna, Pierre, and me, since
>>no one else seems to understand these issues.  If someone else wants
>>to take a stab at it, however, please feel free.
>
>Sure, but where?
>In the list or elsewhere?

the list

>As I suggested in a wiki for some while until it is in the docs.  Seems
>to work out good, even if it should be "rigorously maintained", as you
>said.

Yes, you can make any method of communication work.  I would never advocate
going to some other site and working via a wiki when communicating via a
mailing list and having decisions archived in one place has been the way
we've been doing things for years.

cgf

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