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Date:	Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:00:07 -0700
From:	Greg Morgan <drkludge AT cox DOT net>
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CC:	nfong AT pigtail DOT net, Michael Erdely <ssh-owner AT erdelynet DOT com>
Subject:	Re: OpenSSH-3.9p1-1, mysterious -r option, and documented steps to resolve "Connection to host closed." message was sshd privilege
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Several people in the Cygwin Digest wrote:

First up Christopher Faylor wrote:
 > But, gawsh, it says *right there* on that erdelynet web page that you
 > have to set both of them! And, we all know that "erdelynet" is the final
 > word in all things related to sshd on cygwin!  I mean where else 
would you
 > expect to find cygwin ssh help than at a site called "erdelynet"?

Gasp! I hit the "I'am Feeling Lucky" button. erdelynet was the first 
link out of 15,900 links while googling with cygwin sshd.  Worse yet is 
this link with nice pictures 
http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-sshd.html with a name like 
pigtail.net.  Oh no Mr. Christopher Faylor I found a link with one of 
the Cygwin's project leads with her name on it so I guessed it was ok. 
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2001-01/msg00889.html.  Say it is isn't 
so, she said "tty netsec".  Now I just don't know where to turn for both 
ssh and Cygwin help.  LOL oh Darn I was wrong.  I repent.  But how shall 
we clean up the 819 google links that match cygwin sshd tty ntsec? 
There are another 1,120 that match cygwin ssh tty ntsec.  Those 
erdelynet and pigtail boys are near the top of the list.

Reini Urban sensibly wrote:
<snip>
> Corinna Vinschen schrieb:
<snip>
>>>> These are useless.  Since ssh sessions are running in a pty, they are
>>>> in "tty" mode anyway, "ntsec" is on by default.
>>>
>>>
>>> just "ntea" should be turned on (unless its win95), because it should be 
>>
>>
>> NOOOO!  ntea is old crap and has *nothing* to do with real security.
>> It's just plain fake.  It's not even used if ntsec is in use, only if
>> ntsec is explicitely switched off.
> 
> 
> Could some please update that user-guide then.
>   using-filemodes.html
> 
> Together with the FAT32 issue maybe.
Very Well said.  There seems to be several ways in which this could be 
set up depending on the MS Windows platform patches and other 
combinations of Cygwin DLLs in use.

Greg

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