Mail Archives: cygwin/2004/02/29/18:31:14
George,
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, George Hester wrote:
> Igor my mail client puts all the stuff in you mention by default. I
> don't usually manually remove things to make it "better" because it is
> only in newsgroups that aren't Microsoft where this issue occurs.
Yes, Outlook is notoriously hard to configure properly. However, I do
believe people managed to do this (the signature is definitely
configurable). FYI, your posts actually go to a mailing list, so you're
basically sending e-mail (through a portal called Gmane, which you may
also be able to configure). Frankly, I'm not sure what the last part of
your sentense means (if you mean that users of Microsoft newsgroups don't
care if their e-mail addresses get harvested by spammers, and that in most
other newsgroups people are sensitive to this, then you're absolutely
right -- almost nobody likes spam).
> Let me see what I can do...is that better? Not sure if I should remove the
> previous posts to help.
>
> [partial cygcheck -svr snipped]
>
> George Hester
The problem reporting guidelines at <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>
which I initially referred you to request that the output of "cygcheck
-svr" should be *attached* (as an uncompressed text attachment), rather
than included inline, to avoid producing false positive hits in mailing
list archive searches. The recipe there also helps ensure that you
include the full output of "cygcheck -svr", which you didn't, BTW. It was
enough for our purposes, though, as it confirmed my guesses: the list of
packages shows that you only have the very basic set installed. There are
many more packages available -- you can see the full list of packages in
the "Full" view of setup, or by visiting <http://cygwin.com/packages/>.
HTH,
Igor
> __________________________________
> "Igor Pechtchanski" wrote:
> > George,
> >
> > FYI, I had to jump through hoops to get the full message quoted. Top
> > posting and signatures don't mix well, especially with mail clients that
> > recognize the "-- " sigdashes syntax: either change your signature to not
> > start with "-- ", or make sure your signature follows the quoted message,
> > rather than precedes it.
> >
> > Also, please instruct your mailer to not quote raw e-mail addresses in
> > replies -- they're just fodder for spam harvesters.
> >
> > More comments inline below.
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, George Hester wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry about that. Tell me if this is better.
> >
> > If you mean the linewrap, then thanks, yes, this is much better. You
> > still didn't include any information about your system, though (i.e., the
> > output of "cygcheck -svr").
> >
> > > Yes I could tell Cygwin under cygcheck -s was retrieving more information
> > > then was in the download. I did have it set to full.
> > > So I don't know what more I could have gotten.
> > > The result was as I showed. So you think some of the items
> > > I mentioned as Not Found should have been found choosing Full
> > > in the Setup? Hmmm....
> > > --
> > > George Hester
> >
> > Setting the *view* to "Full" doesn't actually select any packages - it
> > simply displays all the available ones. If you want to actually *install*
> > everything, read <http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_2.html#SEC14>.
> >
> > FWIW, in the "Full" view, all the packages marked "Skip" aren't installed
> > on your system, and you can select them individually.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Igor
> >
> > > __________________________________
> > > "Igor Pechtchanski" <pechtcha<at>cs<dot>nyu<dot>edu> wrote:
> > > > George,
> > > >
> > > > Please instruct your mailer to wrap long lines, otherwise it's very hard
> > > > to read the messages in the archives. Thanks. More below.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, George Hester wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've installed the latest cygwin. That seemed to go OK in Windows 2000
> > > > > Server SP3.
> > > > >
> > > > > I started cygwin from the desktop icon made during the install process.
> > > > >
> > > > > I ran cygcheck -s
> > > > >
> > > > > I find there are a few things "not found."
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) cpp (good!)
> > > > > 2) gcc
> > > > > 3) gdb
> > > > > 4) ld
> > > > >
> > > > > What are these? Why is cpp "Not found" "(good)"? What does that mean?
> > > > >
> > > > > I downloaded and installed all the options so why are some things "Not
> > > > > found"? Can I "find" them somewhere? Should I "find" them? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > The cygcheck program in its "-s" mode (system information) was designed to
> > > > cram as much useful information about your Cygwin installation as possible
> > > > into its output, to help others in diagnosing and/or reproducing your
> > > > problems (and, hopefully, eventually fixing them).
> > > >
> > > > The "installed programs" part of the output attempts to list some common
> > > > programs that people usually ask about. This helps in situations where
> > > > some other version of gcc hides the Cygwin version, for example, and
> > > > people complain that gcc doesn't work. The fact that the programs are or
> > > > aren't found on your system shouldn't bother you unless you need to use
> > > > one of them. All four of the programs that you listed are development
> > > > tools to let you build and debug programs.
> > > >
> > > > Frankly, I have no idea why "cpp not found" is "(good!)". Perhaps it used
> > > > to be that the gcc package hid cpp in its special directory, and you
> > > > weren't supposed to invoke it directly, but rather by passing an option to
> > > > gcc. AFAICS, the current package ships with that program, so perhaps that
> > > > note is outdated and should be removed.
> > > >
> > > > Since these programs are in the official Cygwin packages, you, apparently,
> > > > haven't installed everything (which is what I read your "all the options"
> > > > to mean). If you want to see exactly what you've installed and what's
> > > > available, run setup.exe and switch the view to "Full" (using the button
> > > > on the top right of the package selection page). You will see information
> > > > about all the packages in the distribution. I can't really tell you more
> > > > about your system, since you haven't attached the output of "cygcheck
> > > > -svr" as requested in <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>.
> > > >
> > > > As for whether you *should* "find" them, that's entirely up to you. If
> > > > you don't know what "gcc" is, likely you won't need it. If you install a
> > > > package that requires it, hopefully that package will either pull it in or
> > > > complain the first time it tries to use it, at which point you'll know you
> > > > need to install it (and will be able to find it on the Cygwin package
> > > > search page at <http://cygwin.com/packages/>). Until then, don't bother.
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > > Igor
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