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From:	"Dylan Cuthbert" <dylan AT q-games DOT com>
Subject:	Re: long timeouts on shutdown/log off
Date:	Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:50:34 +0900
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Ok, here are the ps results... I can see three cron tasks with the I field
set (Interactive?) which is very odd as my backup script doesn't have any
input (I've attached the script and the output)

maybe cron isn't able to close the shells it creates to run the jobs
properly?

Any ideas?

---------------------------------
Q-Games, Dylan Cuthbert.
http://www.q-games.com



"Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew AT DeFaria DOT com> wrote in message
news:bmnmm3$53r$1 AT sea DOT gmane DOT org...
> Dylan Cuthbert wrote:
>
> > The problem:
> >
> > After about a day's work I go to logoff or shutdown and the machine
> > just sits there, fully operational and "in the process of logging
> > off", so I can't open any new tasks but I can open up a file explorer
> > window or the start menu etc. If I wait long enough (and I mean 15
> > minutes to several hours) the machine will eventually log off
> > succussfully.
>
> While in this "in the process of logging off" mode, start the
> TaskManager (or better yet have the TaskManager running when you attempt
> shutdown), then selectively start killing processes. If you kill a
> process and wham you logout that's probably the culprit!
>
> Note you cannot kill services with the TaskManager. You can either:
> Start the Services applet and attempt to shutdown the services or have a
> console window running and try net stop "sevice name" or do what I do,
> get Process Explorer from SysInternals which allows you to kill services.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>

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      PID    PPID    PGID     WINPID  TTY  UID    STIME COMMAND=0A=
     1368       1    1368       1368    ?   18 10:46:45 =
/usr/bin/cygrunsrv=0A=
     1364    1368    1368       1620    ?   18 10:46:45 /usr/sbin/cron=0A=
     3892       1    3892       3892    0 12000 11:03:04 /usr/bin/rxvt=0A=
I    3928    3892    3928       3944    1 12000 11:03:04 /usr/bin/bash=0A=
I    2396    1364    1368       2396    ?   18 16:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron=0A=
     2352    2396    2352       2604    ? 12000 16:00:02 /usr/bin/sh=0A=
     4088    2352    2352       2680    ? 12000 16:00:02 /usr/bin/bash=0A=
      804    4088    2352       2620    ? 12000 16:42:35 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
     1492     804    2352       1492    ? 12000 16:42:35 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
I    2640    1364    1368       2640    ?   18 17:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron=0A=
     3396    2640    3396       2380    ? 12000 17:00:02 /usr/bin/sh=0A=
     2384    3396    3396       1284    ? 12000 17:00:02 /usr/bin/bash=0A=
     2328    2384    3396       2928    ? 12000 17:30:10 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
     2824    2328    3396       2824    ? 12000 17:30:10 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
I     904    1364    1368        904    ?   18 19:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron=0A=
     2192     904    2192       3076    ? 12000 19:00:03 /usr/bin/sh=0A=
     3408    2192    2192       2332    ? 12000 19:00:03 /usr/bin/bash=0A=
     1896    3408    2192        300    ? 12000 19:04:44 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
     2488    1896    2192       2488    ? 12000 19:04:45 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
     3480       1    3480       3480    4 12000 19:46:39 /usr/bin/rxvt=0A=
      508    3480     508       3636    5 12000 19:46:39 /usr/bin/bash=0A=
     2944     508    2944       1944    5 12000 19:48:29 /usr/bin/ps=0A=

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      PID    PPID    PGID     WINPID  TTY  UID    STIME COMMAND=0A=
     1368       1    1368       1368    ?   18 10:46:45 =
/usr/bin/cygrunsrv=0A=
     1912       0       0       1912    ?    0 10:47:38 =
C:\WINXP\Explorer.EXE=0A=
      248       0       0        248    ?    0 10:47:39 =
C:\WINXP\System32\conime.exe=0A=
     1872       0       0       1872    ?    0 10:47:40 =
C:\WINXP\System32\ctfmon.exe=0A=
      704       0       0        704    ?    0 10:47:42 C:\Program =
Files\Elaborate Bytes\CloneCD\CloneCDTray.exe=0A=
      612       0       0        612    ?    0 10:47:42 C:\Program =
Files\D-Tools\daemon.exe=0A=
     1068       0       0       1068    ?    0 10:47:42 =
C:\WINXP\SOUNDMAN.EXE=0A=
     1748       0       0       1748    ?    0 10:47:43 C:\Program =
Files\Logitech\MouseWare\system\em_exec.exe=0A=
      588       0       0        588    ?    0 10:47:43 C:\Program =
Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe=0A=
      712       0       0        712    ?    0 10:47:44 =
D:\tools\jajc\jajc.exe=0A=
     1204       0       0       1204    ?    0 10:47:44 C:\Program =
Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe=0A=
     1236       0       0       1236    ?    0 10:47:45 C:\Program =
Files\RSNet\RSEDNClient.exe=0A=
     1572       0       0       1572    ?    0 10:47:45 C:\Program =
Files\Gigabyte\Gigabyte Windows Utility Manager\gwum.exe=0A=
     1684       0       0       1684    ?    0 10:47:45 C:\Program =
Files\SonyPDA\Hotsync.exe=0A=
     1104       0       0       1104    ?    0 10:47:46 C:\Program =
Files\OpenOffice.org1.1\program\soffice.exe=0A=
      492       0       0        492    ?    0 10:47:47 C:\Program =
Files\One Guy Coding\Vern 3.2\vern32.exe=0A=
     2972       0       0       2972    ?    0 10:47:59 C:\Program =
Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe=0A=
     3884       0       0       3884    ?    0 11:03:04 =
C:\WINXP\system32\cmd.exe=0A=
     3892       1    3892       3892    0 12000 11:03:04 /usr/bin/rxvt=0A=
     3944       0       0       3944    ?    0 11:03:05 =
d:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe=0A=
I    2396    1364    1368       2396    ?   18 16:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron=0A=
     2604       0       0       2604    ?    0 16:00:03 =
d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe=0A=
     2680       0       0       2680    ?    0 16:00:03 =
d:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe=0A=
     2620       0       0       2620    ?    0 16:42:35 =
d:\cygwin\bin\rsync.exe=0A=
     1492     804    2352       1492    ? 12000 16:42:35 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
I    2640    1364    1368       2640    ?   18 17:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron=0A=
     2380       0       0       2380    ?    0 17:00:03 =
d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe=0A=
     1284       0       0       1284    ?    0 17:00:03 =
d:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe=0A=
     2928       0       0       2928    ?    0 17:30:11 =
d:\cygwin\bin\rsync.exe=0A=
     2824    2328    3396       2824    ? 12000 17:30:10 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
I     904    1364    1368        904    ?   18 19:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron=0A=
     3076       0       0       3076    ?    0 19:00:03 =
d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe=0A=
     2332       0       0       2332    ?    0 19:00:03 =
d:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe=0A=
      300       0       0        300    ?    0 19:04:45 =
d:\cygwin\bin\rsync.exe=0A=
     2488    1896    2192       2488    ? 12000 19:04:45 /usr/bin/rsync=0A=
     3060       0       0       3060    ?    0 19:46:39 =
C:\WINXP\system32\cmd.exe=0A=
     3480       1    3480       3480    4 12000 19:46:39 /usr/bin/rxvt=0A=
     3636       0       0       3636    ?    0 19:46:39 =
d:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe=0A=
     3964       0       0       3964    ?    0 19:48:06 =
C:\WINXP\system32\cmd.exe=0A=
     4000       0       0       4000    ?    0 19:48:26 =
d:\cygwin\bin\ps.exe=0A=


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