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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 17:48:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha AT cs DOT nyu DOT edu>
Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
To: Ralf Habacker <Ralf DOT Habacker AT freenet DOT de>
cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, Sal <vinnie_vidivici AT yahoo DOT com>
Subject: RE: cygwin as a replacement for explorer.exe
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Ralf Habacker wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com [mailto:cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com]On Behalf
> > Of Igor Pechtchanski
> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:29 PM
> > To: Sal
> > Cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
> > Subject: Re: cygwin as a replacement for explorer.exe
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Sal wrote:
> >
> > > Is it possible to use Cygwin and it's respective X server as a replacement
> > > shell for explorer.exe?
> > >
> > > Sal
> >
> > I think you're asking multiple questions at once here.  I'll try to answer
> > some of them:
> >
> > FYI, I use Cygwin (bash) as a replacement for the Explorer file manager,
> > for things like getting directory listings, launching programs (using
> > Windows associations too, with "cygstart"), and keeping track of processes
> > (even Windows ones, using "ps -W").  It's adequate for most of my daily
> > needs.
> >
> > If you want a graphical file manager, take a look at the KDE for Cygwin
> > suite of tools.
>
> For KDE see http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=103072530327420&w=2.
>
> General Informations about KDE/cygwin could be found on http://cygwin.kde.org

Thanks for the pointer.

> > You can get more information on that by asking on the cygwin-xfree list.
>
> > If you're asking whether you can replace the Explorer desktop, taskbar,
> > and window manager with Cygwin tools/programs, I'm not sure if it's
> > possible
>
> This is one of the goals of the KDE/cygwin project.

I highly doubt it.  If you read on further in my message than the part you
quoted, you'd see that I mentioned controlling and switching to/from
Windows programs.  If that is the goal of KDE/Cygwin, then I completely
misunderstood what it's about.  As I understand it, it's a desktop
environment for interfacing with X programs only (i.e., Cygwin or remote
ones), but not local Windows programs.  Does the project *really* plan to
support, for example, a system-tray replacement showing the mouse driver
icon?  If so, *why*?  ("Just to show we can" is as good a reason as any,
BTW).
	Igor
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