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Subject: Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak
To: "Andrew DeFaria" <ADeFaria AT Salira DOT com>
cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
From: Brian DOT Kelly AT empireblue DOT com
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:42:47 -0400
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> Seems like your saying that (using a car analogy) he should replace the
> carberator when the real problem is a leak in the fuel line.  (IOW
> you're attacking the wrong area - your problem lies elsewhere).

Nope - gotta lower your expectations. I use to work in shop when I was in
high school. Bascially I'd snip the line at the leak, get a piece of rubber
hose and a couple of hose clamps. Back on the road in five minutes!!

- Oh but that's not SAFE  ( you may counter )

( to which I would say ) - neither are crashing servers ...

Assuming of course we stick to your analogy and assume that I can't
'replace'
the fuel line because - well - it's "Ford's" problem .....

You see, basic people (clueless) are very practical. Why put in a new
engine
when a piece of duct tape will do???






"Andrew DeFaria" <ADeFaria AT Salira DOT com>@cygwin.com on 08/07/2003 02:58:10 PM

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cc:     (bcc: Brian Kelly/WTC1/Empire)

Subject:    Re: Win2k and cygwin memory leak


Brian DOT Kelly AT empireblue DOT com wrote:

> Gosh, isn't there a *win* in *cygwin*?? Not that I'm "demanding"
> anything or goodness knows, making suggestions about how you 'Oh Great
> One' should allocate your resources - goodness *no*! But this notion
> that a WinDoze problem is not *also* a cyg*win* problem - is quite a
> *CURIOUS* one to this *clueless* simpleton - INDEED!!

Sticking three letters in a name does not make Cygwin == Windows. It is
the job of the OS to manage memory not the job of the program. When a
process ends the OS is responsible for cleaning up any of the resources
that the process aquired. If the OS fails to do this then it's the OS
that needs to be fixed, not the process.

> Seems in a way that you're saying "I don't care if what I built
> doesn't work for this or that because it's Microsoft's problem".

Seems like your saying that (using a car analogy) he should replace the
carberator when the real problem is a leak in the fuel line.  (IOW
you're attacking the wrong area - your problem lies elsewhere).

> I really don't think you as one who is quick to let Microsoft define
> what he can and can't do - as you yourself have said

Are you asking Cygwin to re-write and take control of management of
memory from the OS?!? That's like asking the carberator mechanic to
build his own fuel line running outside the body of the car!

> So indeed you pick and choose which *Microsoft* problems to fix that
> keep cyg*win* from working - all along *denying* it's a cyg*win*
> problem .....

Yes because some problems are fixable or are within the domain of where
Cygwin has proper control. You can fix a carberator to get extra house
power but if the main engine only has 2 cyclinders don't ask the
carberator mechanic to get 8 cyclinder performance - talk to the maker
of the engine itself!

> Interesting how a 'Great' mind works ;-) .....

Interesting how a clueless mind wanders off...



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