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Subject: RE: Pipe behavior
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:01:13 -0800
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From: "Steven Kilby" <skilby AT visionsolutions DOT com>
To: "Randall R Schulz" <rrschulz AT cris DOT com>, <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
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Randall,

Good call.  As soon as I started to post the source I realized that I
had placed the call to fflush after the sleep.  And you were right about
cygwin emacs, it is using pty's.

Thanks
Steven

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-----Original Message-----
From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:rrschulz AT cris DOT com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:54 PM
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: RE: Pipe behavior


Steven,

I assume the test program you're using to explore this behavior is 
pretty concise. Why don't you post it here?

Randall Schulz


At 16:44 2003-04-03, Steven Kilby wrote:
>Randall,
>
>Thanks for the response.  No, I am not sure that Emacs uses pipes 
>instead of ptys.  I'll have to look at that.  I was testing with the 
>cygwin character emacs.  What you said makes sense but I have one more 
>question.  I modified the code by inserting a call to fflush between 
>the printf's.  I would have thought this would force the first printf 
>to display immediately but this did not happen.  Can you help me 
>understand why?
>
>Thanks
>
>Steven
>
>>Original Message-----
>>From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:rrschulz AT cris DOT com]
>>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:41 PM
>>To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
>>Subject: Re: Pipe behavior
>>
>>
>>Steven,
>>
>>At 16:28 2003-04-03, you wrote:
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >I have a question about pipe behavior.  I wrote a simple program 
>> >that does a printf, sleeps for 5 seconds and then another printf.  
>> >If I run the program with the following way:  $ ./simple | cat  The 
>> >output is delayed until the program finished.  I guessed that the 
>> >pipe is buffered and doesn't flush until it is closed when the 
>> >program ends. But then I ran the same program as an emacs subprocess

>> >and attached a buffer to it. In this scenario the first printf is 
>> >displayed, 5 seconds
>>
>> >pass and then the second printf is displayed.  Emacs also uses pipes

>> >so
>>
>> >I do not understand why the behavior is different.
>>
>>Pipes don't buffer in the manner you describe, but the standard I/O 
>>library does when its output is directed to a pipe or a plain file.
>>
>>Are you sure that Emacs uses pipes and not ptys (pseudo-ttys)?
>>
>>Which Emacs are you using? Cygwin or Windows?
>>
>>
>> >Thanks
>> >Steven Kilby
>>
>>
>>Randall "We don't need no stinkin' disclaimers" Schulz


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