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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:06:57
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From: Paul Coltrin <pablo AT projtech DOT com>
Subject: Re: pdksh installation
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I am also looking forward to the release of a built-in ksh for
Cygwin.  

And, I can see that you wouldn't want to bug the maintainer with
frivilous questions that would delay what you are looking for.

However, I don't see a problem with making and playing in your
own mud-puddle.  Here is what I have figured out so far:

You will need the bzip package installed so that you can run bunzip2
from the command line.  

I believe that (others please jump in to correct if I am wrong) that
the Cyg Installer unpacks the package to the cygwin root directory
and then runs /etc/postinstall/<package_name>.sh.

What I did was unpack the bzip file to a scratch dir and then read
the <pkg>.sh to figure what post processing I had to do for my particular
mud puddle.

If all of the above is Greek to you, then it probably would be best
to wait for the official release.

Paul Coltrin

At 10:17 AM 2/27/03 -0600, BB wrote:
>
>"Christopher Faylor" <cgf-cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> wrote in message
>news:20030226200209 DOT GA24694 AT redhat DOT com...
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:45:36PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>> >On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, you (whoever you are) wrote:
>> >>I have read in the cygwin-apps list that pdksh is available.  Until it
>> >>is officially announced and available in the package list, what is the
>> >>correct procedure for installing it?  Can I use the setup program to
>> >>install it?
>> >>
>> >>I guess this question applies to any new package that is not officially
>> >>released.
>> >
>> >This depends on who is releasing the package.  Sometimes people have
>> >their own setup-aware mirrors, with the appropriate setup.ini file.
>> >Their announcements of packages then usually contain something like "To
>> >review, point your setup.exe to <some web address>".  You can then use
>> >setup.exe to install the packages.
>>
>> Let me say again that I think it is a very bad idea for random people to
>> be installing the package before it is officially ready.  As a package
>> maintainer, I would find questions or bug reports from newbies quite
>> annoying before the package is released.
>>
>> "I saw you were digging a hole for your pool so I filled it with water.
>> How do I make the water nice and clear?  It seems to be a little too
>> muddy for swimming."
>>
>> If you want to sign on to help review packages then that is, of course,
>> welcome.  However, if you have to ask how to install an .tar.bz2 file
>> then you have lots of learning to do before your insight will be useful.
>>
>> I could even, if I was so inclined, pull the "off-topic" card for this.
>> Packages not included in the cygwin release are not what the cygwin
>> mailing list is supposed to be used for.
>>
>> Of course, I wouldn't do something like that because I'm not that...
>>
>> No.  Wait a minute...  Hmm.
>>
>> cgf
>>
>
>Well, I guess this would be the wrong mailing list for the question.
>Perhaps 'applications' would have been the correct place.  But, I still
>think the question is a good on that deserves and answer.  I'm sure that
>those that do know how to install the pre-release packages didn't always
>know how to do it.
>
>I was in the process of trying to build and modify pdksh for my own use when
>I found out that someone was working on a cygwin package.  I figured that I
>might as will use the version that would eventually (maybe with mods) be
>incorporated into the Cygwin installation instead of my version.  I fully
>understand that what pre-release means.  Becaues I knew that that the
>setup.exe program did more than simply unzip the bz2, I asked the question.
>Maybe I shouldnt have specifically listed pdksh as my target product.
>
>I'm not sure I agree that a package maintainer would not want legitimate bug
>reports prior to releasing a product to every Cygwin user.  If a bug report
>is simply an email or mailing list entry, what harm does it do.  I would
>agree that questions about using the package might not be warranted prior to
>it's offical release though.
>
>
>
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