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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:37:35 -0400
From: Christopher Faylor <cgf AT redhat DOT com>
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Subject: Re: Moving cygwin discussions to Usenet? (e.g., alt.os.cygwin)
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On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:30:53AM +0100, raphael wrote:
>On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:22:35PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>However, this really side steps the issue.  Five hundred "How do I get
>>to the previous command in bash?" questions are not going to lead to
>>new insight about cygwin.
>
>Yes they will.  These questions are asked by starting users who are new
>to posix but might very well be window guru's.  Currently they are
>being putt off in a very rude way by a few people, thus cutting into
>Cygwins future potential.

Please provide the URL of such a reply.  Stating that a thing is so
without proof is not useful.

I see many people patiently answering "newbie" questions here.  Surely
everyone has seen answers from (to name a few) Randle Schulz, Larry
Hall, Igor Pechtchanski, and Robert Collins.

I won't deny that occasionally people (like me, maybe) come across as
being brusque but I really don't think that people aren't being helped
here.  Even if it was the case, I don't see how a newsgroup would
magically get people helped.  All that it would take would be one
brusque person and there you go.

>I refuse to believe that it is hystorical that so many developers come
>from a *.nix background and so few if any from the windows side.

It doesn't matter where people come from.  Theoretically everyone can
be taught where and how to find answers.

>Eventually IMHO the current behaviour will slow down intergration of
>cygwin into windows.

I don't see how.  The project seems to grow more popular every day.
Letting people ask any old question without attempting to rein in the
questions to something manageable doesn't seem like a good way to ensure
project growth.  It seems more like an invitation to chaos to me.

>>That's what we're talking about.  A question like (to use a recent
>>example) "Why doesn't vim notice when I resize a console window under
>>cygwin?" will lead to cygwin insights.  I'd rather see those kind of
>>questions asked in the official forum and point the bash people to the
>>appropriate documentation.
>
>Isn't that what the development list is actually for?

No.  It isn't.  Why would anyone be arguing with me about this?  I don't
get it.  I wrote most of the words on project page.  Do you think I'm
going to slap my forehead and say "Aha!  The developers list!  I forgot
all about that!"

>What is the development list for, I see most development done here.

Check out http://cygwin.com/list.html for a description of what the
mailing lists are for.  It sounds like all of the proponents of this
newsgroup should be checking this out.

cgf

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