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Date:	Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:01:18 +0100
From:	Raphael <raphael AT oninet DOT pt>
To:	cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject:	Re: Crontab problems
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On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 01:00:20PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Raphael wrote:
>=20
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 05:53:24PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- Raphael <raphael AT oninet DOT pt> wrote:
> > > > > Hi guys/girls~,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm having a bit of a problem with my windows based editor. Using
> > > > > it with
> > > > > Pine or Mutt is not problem. Using it with Crontab -e gives a
> > > > > sharing
> > > > > violation error when I want to save the new file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this a crontab problem?
> > > >
> > > > Use vi.exe
> > >
> > > Most windows editors adopt a remove-and-recreate (or rename-and-recre=
ate)
> > > policy.  This basically means that they will try to remove or rename =
the
> > > crontab-created file (which will fail, silently), and then create that
> > > file over (which will fail since crontab has it open).  This is where=
 your
> > > sharing violation comes from.
> >
> > Ok, I can understand that explenation.
> >
> > > I've verified this with notepad and
> > > editpad, but I'm sure most of the others will behave similarly.  Thus,
> > > looks like using a cygwin-based editor is your only option, unless yo=
u can
> > > find a windows one that writes the files in-place.  If this creates o=
ne
> > > more convert for the vi camp, all the better. ;-)
> >
> > Don't think so, why should Cron not be able to act like Pine or Mutt. I
> > guess the latter start opening the file in shared mode?
>=20
> I don't know about mutt, but pine, IIRC, does not keep the file open while
> it's being edited by an external editor.  It re-opens the file afterwards,
> which is why it doesn't care whether it's the same file, or a newly
> created one.

Hi Igor,

But do you have any idea why Cron shouldn't be able to act the same?

Kind Regards

Raphael

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