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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:42:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nicholas Wourms <nwourms AT yahoo DOT com>
Subject: Re: gzip.exe as symlink breaks NTEmacs's jka-compr.el
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--- Jon Cast <jcast AT ou DOT edu> wrote:
> Randall R Schulz <rrschulz AT cris DOT com> wrote:
> <snip>
> > I may have missed something (please forgive me for not re-reading
> > the thread), but why is a non-Cygwin program (NTEmacs) relying on a
> > Cygwin tool?
> 
> Because Emacs is a Unix program.  It's been evolved to deliver very
> nearly to full power of the Unix environment, and as such uses /many/
> Unix tools.  Many of those tools are not easily available on Windows,
> but if Emacs finds a copy of them, it'll use them anyway.  This is a
> feature, not a bug.
> 
> > Surely it can be configured to use the correct one, right?
> 
> If there's a Windows gzip installed, you can customize Emacs to use
> it.  But why install two gzips?
> 
> > If NTEmacs doesn't include it's own gzip / gunzip, then editing a
> > compressed file wouldn't even be possible without Cygwin installed,
> 
> s/Cygwin/gzip/.  Of course you can't edit
> 
> > so it seems incumbent upon NTEmacs to deal with the challenges of
> > doing so in their most generic form.
> 
> Why does Emacs have to work around this conceit that all the world
> should be a Cygwin program, when /making gzip work from Emacs/ is so
> much easier?  Consider: Cygwin is a Unix emulation environment, right?
> So if every program was a Cygwin program, every program would be a
> Unix program, and we could all use Unix.  Cygwin exists because some
> people have to use Windows programs.  Ergo, Cygwin cannot pretend
> Windows programs do not exist.

Shoo you Emacs troll, we've heard enough of your rhetoric...

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