Mail Archives: cygwin/2002/05/20/07:38:29
Hi Charles,
> Pawel Czechowicz wrote:
>
>> Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 06:44:03PM +0200, Pawel Czechowicz wrote:
>>>
>>>> This issue really drives me mad:
>>>>
>>>
>>> You should DEFINITELY ask for a refund, then.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, obviously this is very funny!
>
>
> Yes, it was funny. *WE* make you mad because we provided software to
> you gratis, the does almost everything you want -- except for one thing:
> redirecting the output of non-cygwin processes thru a cygwin tty. (read
> that again: redirecting a NON-cygwin process...)
Don't be too angry Charles! I am sorry, I did not make myself completely
clear and you misinterpreted my intentions. I am extremely grateful to
the whole cygwin community for providing such an excellent suite to help
many people SURVIVE in that hated Micro$oft environment :-)
What I was angry at, (mad, crazy and so on ;-) (look at Shankar Unni's
post - thank you Shankar :-)) was that some new 'inventions' of MS
Window$ break completely some well prepared basics of a stable
environment (aka cygwin). I bet there is a switch, registry entry or
some such to make this particular Windoze 2000 behave correctly, but
where to look for it is another question ;-).
I just hoped there was somebody who encountered a similar problem,
that's all. I do not like the idea of asking Micro$oft because the reply
I am going to receive will be 'stop using cygwin, use DevStudio instead'.
>
> Seems a rather ungrateful response, to me. cgf's humorous reply was a
> way of pointing out that you usually catch more flies with honey than
> vinegar. How about:
>
> (a) I have a problem. Here's the description. Can anyone explain why
> it is happening, and suggest a solution. I have searched the relevant
> mailing list archives, and found the following responses: <url> <url>,
> but as you can see, they do not directly address my problem.
>
> instead of
>
> (b) You guys suck! I'm angry! I spent all day downloading cygwin and
> it doesn't do what I want! FIX IT!!! NOW!
I never did it ;-) I like cygwin and never said a word against it :-)
>
> (Honestly, your question was closer to (a) than to (b), but the "This
> really makes me mad!" is rather accusatory, and changes the whole tone
> of your message)
I never meant to be offence anyone ;-) Cultural clash? :-)
>
>>
>> Do you think that I want to use this crappy Window$ stuff? No, I am
>> forced to! This OS was bought for me by my employer and I am obliged
>> to be happy with it!!! The same with VC++ and so on.
>>
>> THIS IS A CRY FOR HELP!
>
>
> No need for SCREAMING. What is the output of 'cygcheck -s -v -r'? What
> is your CYGWIN variable set to? Have you tried with CYGWIN=...
> containing tty and not containing tty?
>
Thanks for the above ideas, that's something :-).
BTW regardless of setting or not CYGWIN to tty the behaviour is the same.
Regards,
Pawel Czechowicz
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