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Date:	Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:18:20 -0500 (EST)
From:	Prentis Brooks <prentis AT aol DOT net>
To:	cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject:	Interesting Problem
Message-ID:	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0203220805050.7562-100000@magetower.office.aol.com>
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Hey All,
	There has been several discussions on the list regarding this
problem I am now seeing and I want to see if I can summarize and maybe
clarify the problem a bit.  I would like to see some discussion as to
what the problem may be and how we can go about fixing it, if possible.
It may turn out to not be a problem with Cygwin, but since it directly
affects the operation of what I consider one of the more useful tools in
Cygwin, I think it is appropriate for this list.  That said, on to the
problem.

	The problem exists on a Windows 2000 host which has had SP2
applied.  There was one email on the list where someone had applied SP1
and then SP2, I have confirmed that it doesn't seem to matter once SP2
is applied.  The symptom is that unless the Server Service is running,
cygrunsrv will not start sshd.  Note this is not a problem with OpenSSH
as it never even gets called by cygrunsrv, and works fine outside of the
service tool.  Also, unless the Computer Browser Service is running,
cygrunsrv will not start cron, same behavior as with sshd.  I do not
know if other cygrunsrv processes are affected as these are the only two
that I have currently enabled on my farm.

	From what I have been able to determine, the problem seems to
be in the interoperation of the cygrunsrv and the Service Manager once
SP2 is applied, such that cygrunsrv no longer behaves as expected.  Does
anyone have any further insight to this?  This is an annoyance to me as
it breaks my security model, such that I have to have the Server Service
running to have SSH, when I have SSH so that I can turn off the Server
Service :).  I am willing to help with this in any way that I can, but I
have no idea where to start looking.  Can someone give me a nudge as to
where they think the problem may be?  Has anyone been able to get SSH to
work on a 2k SP2 host, without running the Server Service?

-- 
Prentis Brooks	| prentis AT aol DOT net | 703-265-0914 | AIM: PrentisBrooks
Senior System Administrator - Web Infrastructure & Security

       A knight is sworn to valor.  His heart knows only virtue.  His blade
       defends the helpless.  His word speaks only truth.  His wrath undoes
       the wicked. - the old code of Bowen, last of the dragonslayers


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