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Date:	Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:16:56 +0100
From:	"malcolm.boekhoff" <malcolm DOT boekhoff AT actfs DOT co DOT uk>
To:	Cygwin News Group <cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com>
Subject:	Why is the file created via "cmd /c echo.>1" reported by "ls -l" as owned by Administrator and group None?
Message-ID:	<20010831121656.A183@BOEKHOFF_M>
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Dear Cygwinners,

If I do this in a Dos, Cmd.com prompt:

    echo.>1

and this in the same directory in a Bash prompt:

    echo>2

the files do not have the same owner/group/permissions:

    Fri 31/08/2001 11:39:43.28 D:\temp>echo.>1

    Fri 31/08/2001 11:50:22.90 D:\temp>bash
    Fri Aug 31-11:50:25 /tmp 501$ echo>2
    Fri Aug 31-11:50:27 /tmp 502$ ls -l ?
    -rw-r--r--    1 boekhoff Administ        2 Aug 31 11:50 1
    -rwxrwxrwx    1 Administ Domain U        2 Aug 31 11:50 2
    Fri Aug 31-11:50:31 /tmp 503$

How can I keep the permissions/owner/group consistent?

I guess I am really curious as to why NT doesn't create the file
properly.

I am logged in as a user, although that user is one of the
Administrators of the machine (i.e. in the "Administrators" group).

It seems to be that files are created as owned by administrator + some
random group if you are in the Administrators group yourself, correct?

I use:

    "mkpasswd -l -d -g -p /f >/etc/passwd" and change the home directory

and:

    "mkgroup  -l -d -u       >/etc/group"

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P.S. I have discovered that I *can* keep the permissions consistent by:

        1. Start DOS prompt.
        2. Start bash.
        3. Start another DOS prompt.

    This appears to sort of work, as the following output shows. However
    it doesn't feel right - starting all those shells and anyway it
    still hasn't got the group right:

        Fri Aug 31-11:50:31 /tmp 503$ cmd /p
        Microsoft(R) Windows NT(TM)
        (C) Copyright 1985-1996 Microsoft Corp.

        Fri 31/08/2001 11:51:18.84 D:\temp>echo.>3

        Fri 31/08/2001 11:51:23.16 D:\temp>ls -l ?
        -rw-r--r--    1 boekhoff Administ        2 Aug 31 11:50 1
        -rwxrwxrwx    1 Administ Domain U        2 Aug 31 11:50 2
        -rwxrwxrwx    1 boekhoff Domain U        2 Aug 31 11:51 3

O.K. Maybe one day I'll get round to starting Bash first, as the main
shell, but I'll need to convert my Dos startup script with all my
environment variable settings.

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Here's the `cygcheck --sysinfo` stuff:

cygcheck: dump_sysinfo: GetVolumeInformation() failed: 1005

Cygnus Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Fri Aug 31 11:55:18 2001

WinNT Ver 4.0 build 1381 Service Pack 4

Path:   .
        /e/mcb/act/bin/nt
        /e/mcb/act/bin
        /d/jdk1.3/bin
        /d/jdk1.3/jre/bin
        /d/jpda/bin
        /usr/local/bin
        /usr/bin
        /usr/bin
        /usr/sbin
        /d/vim/vim57
        /d/vim/vim57/olevim
        /e/mcb/bin/nt
        /e/mcb/bin
        /d/bin/nt
        /d/bin
        /d/build/lib
        /c/WINNT
        /c/WINNT/system32
        /d/together4.1/bin
        /d/together4.1/bin/win32
        /d/program files/microsoft debugging tools/bin
        /c/program files/microsoft visual studio/common/msdev98/bin
        /c/program files/microsoft visual studio/vc98/bin
        /c/program files/microsoft visual studio/common/tools/winnt
        /c/program files/microsoft visual studio/common/tools
        /d/oracle/ora817/bin
        /d/oracle/ora817/jdbc/lib
        /c/ccm45/bin
        /c/ccm45/bin/util
        /c/enabler/runtime
        /c/program files/microsoft visual studio/vss/win32
        /c/program files/windows nt/accessories
        /c/program files/winzip

SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
WinDir: C:\WINNT

CYGWIN = `ntsec case:ignorecase title nostrip_title glob'
HOME = `/e/mcb/act'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/tmp'

Use `-r' to scan registry

a:  fd           N/A    N/A
c:  hd  NTFS    2047Mb  65% CP CS UN PA FC
d:  hd  NTFS    6902Mb  87% CP CS UN PA FC
e:  hd  NTFS     588Mb  78% CP CS UN PA FC
f:  cd           N/A    N/A
p:  net NTFS    8675Mb  83% CP CS UN PA FC     Documents

d:\cygwin\bin\strace.exe  /bin/strace.exe  system  binmode,exec
d:\cygwin\bin\strace.exe  /usr/bin/strace.exe  system  binmode,exec
d:\cygwin\bin  /usr/bin  system  textmode
d:\cygwin\lib  /usr/lib  system  textmode
d:\cygwin  /        system  textmode
d:\temp  /tmp     system  textmode
\\.\a:  /dev/floppy  system  binmode
\\.\f:  /dev/cdrom  system  binmode
d:\zip  /zip     system  textmode
c:    /c       user    textmode,noumount
d:    /d       user    textmode,noumount
e:    /e       user    textmode,noumount
p:    /p       user    textmode,noumount

Found: d:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: d:\bin\nt\cat.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Found: d:\bin\nt\ls.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\make.exe
Found: d:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe

   56k 2000/12/03 d:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll
   45k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll
   18k 2000/10/23 d:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll
   17k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll
   21k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll
   21k 2001/06/20 d:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll
   81k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll
   35k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll
   45k 2001/07/04 d:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll
  119k 2001/06/06 d:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll
   26k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll
  156k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll
  226k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll
   15k 2001/04/25 d:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll
  163k 2001/05/06 d:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll
  108k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll
  135k 2001/06/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll
  390k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll
    5k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll
   10k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll
  245k 2001/06/12 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll
  623k 2001/04/28 d:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll
   41k 2001/07/04 d:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll
   45k 2001/07/04 d:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll
   49k 2001/02/03 d:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
  678k 2001/05/21 d:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
    Cygwin DLL version info:
        dll major: 1003
        dll minor: 2
        dll epoch: 19
        dll bad signal mask: 19005
        dll old termios: 5
        dll malloc env: 28
        api major: 0
        api minor: 39
        shared data: 3
        dll identifier: cygwin1
        mount registry: 2
        cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
        cygwin registry name: Cygwin
        program options name: Program Options
        cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
        cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
        cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
        cygdrive default prefix:
        build date: Sun May 20 23:28:17 EDT 2001
        shared id: cygwin1S3

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Fri 31/08/2001 11:55:20.14 D:\temp>

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