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From: Peter Buckley <peter DOT buckley AT cportcorp DOT com>
To: "'cygwin AT cygwin DOT com'" <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Subject: press for cygwin
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:33:11 -0400
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I emailed the author-

I read your cygwin/OpenSSH article at win2kmag.com-

I didn't care for it. You are proposing an unsupported method 
to install the cygwin toolset- even without this press for cygwin, 
the cygwin mailing list gets an email a week about "I installed 
with winzip, and something doesn't work." Many of the developers 
are tired of answering people who don't follow basic directions 
that are there for good reasons- winzip can't handle necessary 
things like symlinks- and sometimes they are a little curt with 
people who have cygwin problems and have shot themselves in 
the foot by performing a half-baked install. 

You might want to check the archives of the cygwin mailing 
list to see the numerous messages about broken installs due 
to not following directions. 

Also- you don't mention setting the CYGWIN variable to "ntsec", 
which I believe is required based on the openssh-2.9p2.readme 
(for sshd to work or be secure). 

You are setting a lot of people up for frustration and failure by 
recommending an incomplete/unsupported installation of these tools-
when installed correctly, the cygwin toolset is fantastic. 

Maybe you should read and point people to http://tech.erdelynet.com.
It has an excellent cygwin and ssh setup section, and ssh mailing list.
Of course, YOU probably won't get all the pleas for help from people 
following your directions- the cygwin list/developers will.

I think you should more carefully consider the implications of your article
before you 
let someone publish it. "Does a man build a tower without first considering 
whether he has the time and materials to build it?" I forget what verse that
is. 

Even though I disagree with you on the article, 
I want to thank you for helping out with crosswalk.com.

-Peter

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