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From: "Christopher Jones" <cbjones AT nortelnetworks DOT com>
To: Heribert Dahms <heribert_dahms AT icon-gmbh DOT de>,
"'cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com'" <cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
Subject: RE: Cygwin 1.1.0 gdb troubles
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:01:38 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heribert Dahms [mailto:heribert_dahms AT icon-gmbh DOT de]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 6:02 PM
> To: 'cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com'
> Subject: RE: Cygwin 1.1.0 gdb troubles
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> it's easy, but is there a guarantee that the format dosen't change?
> I remember man ps from HP-UX 10.20 under WARNINGS:
> 
>       Users of ps must not rely on the exact field widths and 
> spacing of
> its
>       output, as these will vary depending on the system, the 
> release of
>       HP-UX, and the data to be displayed.
> 

Seems like it would make more sense to at least hide these cygwin pids and
let users always use windows pids for ps, kill, $$ in a shell, etc.  So the
PID and PPID values would be the real windows values and cygwin pids would
disappear into the internals somewhere... probably a lookup table if you
really need to have them still.  Something like this would be more seemless,
wouldn't it?

Brian

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Heribert Dahms [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:heribert_dahms AT icon-gmbh DOT de">mailto:heribert_dahms AT icon-g=
mbh.de</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 6:02 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: 'cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: RE: Cygwin 1.1.0 gdb troubles</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hi Chris,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; it's easy, but is there a guarantee that the =
format dosen't change?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I remember man ps from HP-UX 10.20 under =
WARNINGS:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Users of ps =
must not rely on the exact field widths and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; spacing of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; its</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; output, as =
these will vary depending on the system, the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; release of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; HP-UX, and =
the data to be displayed.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Seems like it would make more sense to at least hide =
these cygwin pids and let users always use windows pids for ps, kill, =
$$ in a shell, etc.&nbsp; So the PID and PPID values would be the real =
windows values and cygwin pids would disappear into the internals =
somewhere... probably a lookup table if you really need to have them =
still.&nbsp; Something like this would be more seemless, wouldn't =
it?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Brian</FONT>
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