From:	Andy DOT Mortimer AT aeat DOT co DOT uk (Andy Mortimer)
Subject:	problem with high PIDs and ash? (was Re: Problem with wait?)
16 Jun 1998 21:01:27 -0700 :
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Cc:	Ian AT kiwiplan DOT co DOT nz

Andy Mortimer <Andy DOT Mortimer AT aeat DOT co DOT uk> writes:

> Dear Ian and List,
> 
> cgf AT cygnus DOT com (Christopher G. Faylor) writes:
> > Ian Collins <Ian AT kiwiplan DOT co DOT nz> wrote:
> > >I am running NT4 SP3 with b19.
> > >I keep getting an error waitforjob - no children.
> > >[...]
> > >Once I get this error message, the only recourse is to reboot the
> > >machine.
> > >
> > >Please - has anyone seen this problem? I have absolutely no idea how to
> > >solve this.
> > 
> > Try running Sergey's coolview or B19.1.
> 
> I don't know if this worked for you, Ian, but I've just started
> getting this error (I've just started running large builds too, so I
> don't think it's something I've just broken) with Sergey's
> latest. Again, having started happening it seems to happen for most
> commands -- although not all; usually I can do an "ls" without
> problems, but it won't let me run any shell scripts -- until I reboot.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea how I would go about looking for more
> information on this? Or ideally, how to fix it?

OK, I think I've found at least a little bit of the solution, through
a couple of happy coincidences.

The first occurred to me while looking at the output from straces on
an identical shell script, before and after rebooting, while this
problem was in evidence. There weren't any obvious errors from the
cygnus stuff, but the call to wait4 was simply repeated. Then I
noticed that the PID in the failed case was just a little greater than 
32768.

This made the problem reproducible, with the following shell script:

#!/bin/sh
echo $$
$0 &

which simply increments the PID. Having got the PID over about 33000
(I didn't get an exact number cos the script wouldn't stop!), I again
couldn't run the shell scripts.

The second thing was the realisation that, although I could run "ls"
from bash fine, when I did `sh -c ls' it gave the waitforjob error. So 
it's an sh problem. I then noted that `sh -c "ls; ls"' only gave one
listing and an error, wheras `bash -c "ls; ls"' gave two listings and
no error.

A simple fix, therefore, is to copy sh.exe to ash.exe and then copy
bash.exe over sh.exe. This seems to work for me so far, at any rate.

In the longer term, it looks like there's a bug in ash. I'm
downloading the source as I type, and I'll see if I can find it
easily, but if anyone else fixes it I'd be interested to hear! 

Thanks,

Andy
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