From:	DKhosla AT Compaq DOT com (Khosla, Deepak)
Subject:	RE: ps, test, /dev/null questions
18 Sep 1997 12:58:24 -0700 :
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Thanks for all the ideas. I tried a few:
-	ps -eAf or any other option does not work. I guess as someone 
explained, you can only see cygnus processes - not a good port IMHO. 
Also pview is a grpahical utility AND you have to have the reosurce 
kit! Anyway, if you have the resource kit, you can use the TLIST 
command.
-	Nul: works on NT, I'm not sure why, but if it is a intentional 
feature and it plans on staying, it would be a good idea to document 
it.
-	Sending anything to /dev/null does create a file that size (not 
good), however if you input from it, you don't get anything (strange 
but good)
-	test -w ./DIR/. does just the same - returns false when it 
shouldn't

Regards

Deepak Khosla
281-514-9234
Deepak DOT Khosla AT compaq DOT com


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From:	jeffdbREMOVETHIS AT netzone DOT com 
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Sent:	Wednesday, September 17, 1997 11:44 PM
To:	Khosla, Deepak; gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com
Subject:	Re: ps, test, /dev/null questions

use pview (NT resource kit)
pview95 (Platform SDK sample applications)
wintop (95 only? MS kerneltoys)

cygnus ps only shows procs for cygnus processes. (reasonable I think 
:).

/dev/null exists only in the mind of the cygwin.dll (and not always 
there)

try diff -ubB /dev/null file.c (use echo|diff -ubB - file.c or diff 
-urBbN ../emptydir . )

..\\NUL (./NUL) exists in every directory on FAT VFAT or NTFS
(it's a system device however it's not recognized by cygwin.dll)
(see any good dos book whoops I mean dosshell95/NT, er win32? book :)

try test -w ./DIR/. && echo itshere  (the ending slash messes up stat 
I think)

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:36:33 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Can anyone answer these for me - I've looked through the docs but no 
>man on ps :-(
>
>1)	ps -ef does not return all the jobs on the system. Is there a way 
I
>can look at all the jobs and not just the children of my session?
>2)	test -w Dir returns FALSE even though I can write to the directory 
>DIR
>3)	I have found through some emails that people use nul: as the
>equivalent of /dev/null (in Unix). Is that accurate and corect? Is
>that dcumented anywhere?
>
>Regards
>
>Deepak Khosla
>281-514-9234
>Deepak DOT Khosla AT compaq DOT com
>
>
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