From:	jqb AT netcom DOT com (Jim Balter)
Subject:	Re: using cat on binary files (CTRL-Z trauma)
29 Oct 1996 22:56:32 -0800 :
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In-Reply-To:	<199610300220.VAA24651@delorie.com> from "DJ Delorie" at Oct 29, 96 09:20:25 pm
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DJ Delorie wrote:
> 
> 
> > Maybe we can file a class action suit for a few billion against the
> > turkey who unleashed on the world a system with such fundamentally
> > bad design decisions as a two-character EOL indicator and an in-band
> > EOF indicator.
> 
> It was a good design.  It's an old design.  If you want to toast
> someone, toast the idiots that chose to *keep* the design past its
> useful life.
> 
> If you want to know why CRLF is the standard, try this command on a unix
> box:
> 
> 	stty -onlcr -icrnl
> 
> Note that MS-DOS does not have, nor has ever needed, an stty command.

Funny, but my unix system continues to run even when I delete this command
from the disk.  stty has nothing to do with how lines are stored in files.

> Nor does MS-DOS need the termios libraries.  Nor does it have a
> termcap.

Nor can you run edit on ADM, Beehive, and Wang terminals.

None of this has anything to do with how lines are stored in files.

> Neither DOS nor Unix are better than the other; each has its
> good points and bad points.  The DJGPP mailing list sees both sides;
> the dos folks switching to a unix compiler have a similar number of
> valid greivances about the "Unix way".

Non sequitur all the way.
-- 
<J Q B>

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