X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 01:10:12 +0100 From: Kai-Martin Knaak To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Problem with Guile 2.2.4 dependency for gEDA 1.10.1. Message-ID: <20201221011012.770c4757@swips.iqo.uni-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <8fd7c539-405f-86ae-958c-9f56ba333c0a@epilitimus.com> References: <20201219180603 DOT 22277 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <8fd7c539-405f-86ae-958c-9f56ba333c0a AT epilitimus DOT com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/qAvYXaxn9r19zkqp6+EO3ro"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Db0IEa36R0salfjaYxxebfjCjtFsY2LPNHEje5fCpTw1aqXezTA f0jdTj0i6TRaVn1F7TEKpaqUWkN6d8c3b7HLPH4m8qDILRYkYx13DzwZ77oE5F4IgKkoNfk USKJ/dxS0yKwP+RPJqPSvVEBn7EuMNpJ48FkexJS8VNoGGOGBdfX+jNOXFny8/H9zyurLm5 gMdXeubpHOJEw7S7XKVxw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:XQR0nf+fmko=:wnX8L9aMmdYYPTuoid4Qsj EVHEoyA7ZIbfpQYTV1ltckMtPFzX4LeDAnMYeA6Q98fKI1yLau6P+hGn48a3DdkSEGm/v6woG rdACcTvbIilD8Y3/c9/DvhFrKZpKMrgTXsdRShSuC1dnnt5sOd/sJDoe3fNw2CO6RlcKCTW5w vSQHRwSyN24rqMU+6TiVZfTRzADov5VXnBf5qE1ZNwnndmslXR8Ko+5sxhK6HU8/fAeIhwryj vHhhD0ND9UnfDHAsDP7zH6k6FsqONE2uYq4wasLOXTw2H1qvQ9gXoCi/S+ZwplhdWWqRpYwYd PIAj+20TR/kFl7nrLB+ASDU02TRofH/LKZLjc5rY1mql4/KKppV88OGrE+tyH/crCsqxH9HPF /Ekoj4O3cVWJJVSwB3ZGmdm4r6KuJQLJrkXgg0tTlD+vZdT2NrnBEkM93vaMEawRUjjLUzDwj 7h7MbfizNw== Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Sig_/qAvYXaxn9r19zkqp6+EO3ro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Glenn (glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" schrieb am 19. December 2020: > > How do I know what the "actual" minimum required version of a > > dependency is? > > > > =20 > If you haven't made a change that requires an updated dependency, Given the level of convoluted complexity that the various layers of dependencies present, this is a rather bold statement. Specifically with guile I got the impression that you never know that stuff works until it got tested and it did actually work.=20 > then leave the current required version as it is (was).=20 > I would be perfectly comfortable with that. I for one would not be comfortable with a build system that developers explicitly have no straight forward way of testing. =20 The infrastructure in the form of linux distributions evolve. guile 2.0 was released in 2011, guile 2.2 in 2017. At some point the totally understandable desire of having applications work exactly as they used to, becomes a drag. Debian is known for their rather conservative approach to version creep. In Debian10/buster they maintained both, guile 2.0 and 2.2. However, the dependencies are a mess to say the least. In January 2020 guile 3.0 entered the scene. Given that this version introduces its own set of incompatibilities I can totally relate that Debian maintainers refuse to keep guile 2.0 forever. ---<)kaimartin(>--- --=20 Kai-Martin Knaak Email: kmk AT familieknaak DOT de =C3=96ffentlicher PGP-Schl=C3=BCssel: https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=3Dindex&search=3D0x7B0F9882 --Sig_/qAvYXaxn9r19zkqp6+EO3ro Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEyAypwA/y2l/nFU8PwTqkzHsPmIIFAl/f5+QACgkQwTqkzHsP mIJ0RhAAg1ci7zwatKARTEfzg/ynNDy7cl4ynaznlACu11LMqhJEOfOrOSXz7FTI dpe9OD+9biPByV9gPMLR4L97GOl1hAXuGB9o7y6CTsKjO8a3RhJZr5PyZUT+/G1K pdypPtyDxz7E60ff2gzqWko6WRUAOg9fHvZa2WQQ6bMtFELodo1ZvTW0jRp65fvO 7Nec1eb5BN+KltC2SV1pd2tdsf5j4827ftrlZbV7QOHxIUI/7xQXRGM6N1M4HBaz aHNEwJffROtpZzxAgF9+qATRTPy+Wks8k68zUR8QRB/Me/skZxhIKF+KXY6j4xUh d824dOBTDhNJ2twgA4wQIz8XcnyJ8zVIVgBg6rhTb4/OcMsoKQyq75xtBFmNuOsp eTOSh8RVybswUPbFf3Tyf3Aq5+Ho5AbQEI4vpAHilRsrCg1rArrLCXIfC8dxExci /evtN7V31P2x2t70J/ulbxSRubjoPYfCiKVwMbAoUQu0GjAgsa1Y13JJ4sQKw7CD mZBC8UAeMoC3TdpZT/l0zrimB1zW1f0+roF2/88pm2mVhuz5M03fpjuhM5KJlb/R LbbT47JXfscApDpifn0aGhe1vM5lQ1L9IEnAjhbzDLHG1GNjXVGa1sW9qCdFqoa7 MQBX7jpep2VmMdj/5vPQ1Xzgv7C/QlNOVO/06XX4nAkYrDtU/+k= =0h3B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/qAvYXaxn9r19zkqp6+EO3ro--