X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=Oa1dsjfY c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=5fde8af8 a=+cj0cO56Fp8x7EdhTra87A==:117 a=RHMF+Ri+PG5f/Z3y0YO5Lw==:17 a=9+rZDBEiDlHhcck0kWbJtElFXBc=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=zTNgK-yGK50A:10 a=Mj1Xp5F7AAAA:8 a=qYa1isandsS5w1IUokQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=OCttjWrK5_uSHO_3Hkg-:22 X-SECURESERVER-ACCT: glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Problem with Guile 2.2.4 dependency for gEDA 1.10.1. To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <20201219180603 DOT 22277 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20201219211448 DOT 24154 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> From: "Glenn (glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:21:20 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201219211448.24154.qmail@stuge.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2plcpnl0121.prod.iad2.secureserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - delorie.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - epilitimus.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: a2plcpnl0121.prod.iad2.secureserver.net: authenticated_id: glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com X-Authenticated-Sender: a2plcpnl0121.prod.iad2.secureserver.net: glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfMD0eVFk3VeGHX99P3d/UgBuxOSKO/Kxm4Si6rrjGjs8GdUjlhiXLkVKV1cmPLMaWxJGiu30FjFFmhuvnCH/zWZ6K7P/w35ttFpoGIkOtweIAWivpHcv rKJOoxamBciaUQajBzKXI1mKPaelYqOqx3J25ZgH/81DE/gCr1v3bvbckP7WqqD39bhIMuZDaWX0HMFupTGVws4oOFrELVPSKmGJxKO9PqCklyijVjecmpUe Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Roland Lutz wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via >> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> You need to encode the *actual* minimum required dependencies in >>> configure.ac, not what your particular testing environment uses. >> How do I know what the "actual" minimum required version of a dependency >> is? > It's the first version where all used APIs are available and functional. > > When inheriting a project it may require unmanageable effort to determine > those for all used APIs, in thaitt case it's a good strategy to at least only > ever bump required versions in commits which add some code that uses an API > not available in the previously required version. > > The various GNOME projects are good at documenting first-available-version > in their API documentation, but sometimes it sadly does become neccessary > to search for that first version manually, when adding code which uses an > API for the first time in a project. > > > //Peter > Ideally yes. But in the interests of simplicity I would say that someone at some point had what was considered a good reason to set the required versions where they were, and things have been building without issue with those version numbers. So set them back to where they were and then only increase them when/asĀ  necessary, and we can all go back to working on what we were doing before this kerfuffle started. IMO a bug release is *not* a good place to be increasing dependency versions, unless it is to fix a bug. A dependency upgrade should be a minor version increase at the least since it means the code is no longer backwards compatible. JMO Glenn