X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=optonline.net; s=dkim-001; t=1607995482; bh=Owk/SdW8kmTXEVvL5jB/V7dV3n80TdKD9PYsEjQJDLk=; h=From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=pxgoycWGT/9NYNe7f6p2CiuGg/oehZPBttX76dQjxjkeXSL9aNCUsWOWTsWZ8/JAt BhezuyqpUemwKfUXs84NVJ4dt2LYJCOBBp62OisrTeIazVFaZ+iHHFtPOSWMWbAtAU izpQn+48LZusD/PnkjgLQqnzZe2fRj5VYWS8dS9HWv7mL77QPC2p8rEy01h4TDs0l/ Ue3daMwW6Yr5LRvSnQXZCdVd7Qdiz//xbMqISOTMQgjqPXchPkclK13ym6cbZyBSwP 2bQP1nH0mhdnfvzfGRmHqov2CsmmucwzLWYGieLmnteKFzp1t5QbcqK1sTUmtu39BB eVWJiKmYi2Fjg== Authentication-Results: mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net smtp.user=geneglick; auth=pass (LOGIN) Authentication-Results: mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net x-tls.subject="/C=US/ST=California/L=Mountain View/O=Google LLC/CN=smtp.gmail.com"; auth=pass (cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256) X-Content-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=OIq8IRSB c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lFAXAL07Q9TDtAbGjOXoEQ==:117 a=zTNgK-yGK50A:10 a=6FKZd4RP29VcdOTo7DAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=GZkkNzpPcVOSTWZTsqAA:9 a=qKvhTYXlhy4WFiSG:21 X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530MYFLMCn9vhoCdDltHNGpBP1aQ9syG/yDgbUbRgU/qCDxP+MuR 30Q8+4azOPn8qEd2TnoWdNDAOs25vHcGVSyqBjA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzjrYGeNgm7XRd2CLwcpT90yfOtIzkP+D98Wz8aOUz7KJCQa66IO20b7zoLtxvQVkVsq+MjjVe8L9iUsUmipKk= X-Received: by 2002:a25:d7c3:: with SMTP id o186mr21768640ybg.488.1607995476291; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:24:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <84c207a9-df84-c244-96ee-b7e05795d491 AT nksb DOT online> In-Reply-To: <84c207a9-df84-c244-96ee-b7e05795d491@nksb.online> From: "gene glick (geneglick AT optonline DOT net) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:24:25 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Variable voltage supply from fixed To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002a365a05b6769f45" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com --0000000000002a365a05b6769f45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I've done some of all that. For now, I'll assume you want a positive supply TL431 is a personal favorite. It works very well as a shunt regulator or with a transistor to form a higher current series regulator. Both good...depends on the application. You did not mention noise or temperature. If noise is important to you, then you'll need to find a regulator that exposes the voltage reference so you can filter it. Temperature can affect some of these regulators. I've run the TL431 to 175C (and higher) with no problems. The band-gap reference is really very stable. Some regulators have thermal shutdown at 160C. Zener references are noisy, if that matters for you. If not, zener + pass transistor is an okay option. I suspect zener's are not thermally stable at high temperatures. You can always roll your own with an opamp, a pass transistor, and a reference. That's pretty much what is inside the TL431 anyway. :D Also, if you look at the data sheet for any of the 3-pin fixed regulators - I'm pretty sure they show ways to raise the output with either some resistors or zener diodes. I haven't tried this, however. For low power, it's hard to beat SOT23 TL431 + SOT23 2N2222 + a couple resistors. Very small, very flexible. Hope that helps. gene --0000000000002a365a05b6769f45 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've done some of all that. For = now, I'll assume you want a positive supply

TL431 is a personal favorite. It works very well as a shunt regulator or = with a transistor to form a higher current series regulator. Both good...de= pends on the application.

You did not mention nois= e or temperature. If noise is important to you, then you'll need to fin= d a regulator that exposes the voltage reference so you can filter it. Temp= erature can affect some of these regulators. I've run the TL431 to 175C= (and higher) with no problems. The band-gap reference is really very stabl= e. Some regulators have thermal shutdown at 160C.
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Zener references are noisy, if that matters for you. If not, zene= r + pass transistor is an okay option. I suspect zener's are not therma= lly stable at high temperatures.

You can alway= s roll your own with an opamp, a pass transistor, and a reference. That'= ;s pretty much what is inside the TL431 anyway. :D

Also, if you look at the data sheet for any of the 3-pin fixed regulators = - I'm pretty sure they show ways to raise the output with either some r= esistors or zener diodes. I haven't tried this, however.
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For low power, it's hard to beat SOT23 TL431 + SOT23 2N2= 222 + a couple resistors. Very small, very flexible.

Hope that helps.

gene
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