X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [geda-user] geda-skeleton-project: Lowering the cost of a starting a gEDA project From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <50F77C8E.9020003@plastitar.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:06:28 -0700 Message-Id: <77F89BB5-8B6E-4ECA-A1FA-F74364DA25BC@noqsi.com> References: <87wqvhd4tw DOT fsf AT gmail DOT com> <859D19F5-2072-408E-9632-324C2C943163 AT noqsi DOT com> <87bocrviz3 DOT fsf AT gmail DOT com> <40E88AEA-9556-40D5-9567-9DEFCAFFBCFA AT noqsi DOT com> <201301170126 DOT r0H1QVNO006895 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <90674A9C-F296-412F-A99C-372DDA7C70F0 AT noqsi DOT com> <50F77C8E DOT 9020003 AT plastitar DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id r0H56XVD020680 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Jan 16, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Phil Taylor wrote: > On 1/16/2013 9:52 PM, John Doty wrote: >> But from where I sit, it appears that to a great extent pcb users (including you) simply took over the gEDA project, > > Oh how dare they ... write code(?). Was the code really needed? A true advance? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. > That's sort of how it works right? The trouble here is the biased, pcb-centric viewpoint of the pcb developers. gEDA is good for so much more. That's why it would be better to call the project in question pcb-skeleton-project rather than geda-skeleton-project, since it's pcb-centric. I realize that some really like pcb, and I have absolutely no objection to pcb-centric projects like this. But I object to the constant implication that only the pcb flow matters for gEDA: I believe that is very damaging. Why should gEDA only be for the subset of people who find pcb usable? > > And from "where I'm sitting" I can confidently say I have benefited and at times even made a living using the geda/PCB system. For me, gEDA yes, pcb never. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com