X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <4F9A5E54.3030402@schinagl.nl> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:52:36 +0200 From: Oliver Schinagl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120416 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com CC: Kai-Martin Knaak Subject: Re: [geda-user] Re: Dual SPI Flash adapter attempt 2.0 References: <4F915B7C DOT 9000009 AT schinagl DOT nl> <4F959E1F DOT 6010803 AT schinagl DOT nl> <4F997E2E DOT 7010306 AT schinagl DOT nl> <4F99CEFD DOT 10707 AT schinagl DOT nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 04/27/12 01:20, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Oliver Schinagl wrote: > >> Somehow I managed to mirror one of my labels on a component. So the >> part was on the top side, while the label looked like it was on the >> bottom side. Long story short, i just deleted the part, and copied it >> from the neighboring part. Due to all the renaming though, I get all >> strange connects when using the automated rats nest, but I guess >> that's the price to pay. > > I prefer to drive my layout with gschem. That is, all parts in the > layout are also mentiond in the schematic - no manual insertion of > footprints in pcb. For a multiple instances like in your layout can > be achieved with a hierarchical schematic. I've had this as well initially, but labels where being messed up, so I just had to rename parts to be identical. As for the copying the part, I just couldn't figure out (in 15 minutes) how or why the name of my footprint was mirrored. Other then that, I completely agree. > > >> So the big question is; shall I send this to seeed for fabrication > > The outline lines should look more simple. The gerbers expicitely > call for a milled edge at the middle of each line. So ther should > be a single line where you expect the fab to cut the board. > I'm not expecting the fab to cut the board, i'll probably do it manually here at home. > The fabs I know, would object against such a multiple part layout > and charge extra for their increased handling effort. They prefer > layouts in one piece. You are allowed to have 5 designs with Seeed on one PCB. I know this is strictly spoken 8, but I hope we can work out some sort of deal or cheat it through ;) It's for charity after all. > > Copper lines look a bit on the skinny side. If they are more beefy > the manufactured board can be tweaked more easily. Depending on > the currents, ground and supply may benefit from increased line > thickness. If S1 and S2 are SMD supposed to be jumpers, then it > may be hard to close them with a solder iron. The pads should be > much wider than the gab to make the solder bridge more likely. > This bit, I don't understand. I choose the smallest part available, so that a solderbridge is very easy to make. (0201) I think the pads are about twice as big as the gap? > ---<)kaimartin(>---