X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z3xdARP7sviezSZTJDdrcwHi2RLcZqfxMR7OH9cOZYs=; b=Ie1UnEVePFwDNJyfoYUikqK5EJi1GxTS920NKuqNmZsOVaA+86hTHlvTO93/teRBS0 rZ6cNjROCiGyTx1tMWcTchnPU3qQz+25Z4PBsKCr5RPZhrKeIb8xBHgQs7w3EaMqZlzv 8eLEhUtTyM5NPKknEFCUajZ9GQHv9ZvsP4U4MLSBc+xzUCopdq4Q9Udv6ZoYZ/F+BTJZ n4zcDHQnZadEl26By5CBc8+EMCDwgWnb5FwqTtt9KE/njcLJ3ezvphgj6PDfyd04LLxQ 8vpfpxiS8i/EM0uBHrrUYkBw2EAwzYHk8DbeAyqtOAqUVNBm6G1bqQDCNkTeGzwnllDR Sonw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.198.198 with SMTP id je6mr20005lbc.31.1444778867627; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <34B17816-9EA5-45FD-BFB4-9D623A8D3D87@noqsi.com> References: <1042003D-82E2-40F0-AB60-8186580C46AD AT noqsi DOT com> <201510121905 DOT t9CJ5T9W026297 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <88EA58F5-2B23-498A-9E5B-84054976DBED AT noqsi DOT com> <4D3CD563-D8EE-4B2A-975A-AC2B573960FF AT noqsi DOT com> <34B17816-9EA5-45FD-BFB4-9D623A8D3D87 AT noqsi DOT com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:27:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t9DNRqW8032511 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:57 PM, John Doty wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:23 PM, John Doty wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> >>>>> Translation to the various layout and simulation tools is then a job for gnetlist or xorn. Pcb, having no mechanism to do anything with this data, isn't terribly relevant at present. >>>> >>>> Well there needs to be something that works like s_conn and it's >>>> partners in gnetlist that walks the list mapping the nets but with >>>> this added metadata. >>> >>> Walking lists is easy in Lisp: gnet-makefile.scm has functions like: >> >> I understand that but I would really like to go back and do more of >> this in C. > > Please not in libgeda or the geda-gaf core tools. That has tremendous potential to break things. geda-gaf is a mature toolkit in production use: changes to the core should not be taken lightly. New tools and new plug-ins are great. We have a transparent schematic format and powerful scripting mechanisms to give us power and to allow us to keep that power from interfering with each other’s objectives. We could prototype it via a plugin but in the long term it should really be in the core. To be honest I find your "don't touch the core you will break something" attitude kind of insulting. I am not out to change how we have kept the concept of connections in libgeda and nets in gnetlist. I just want to mirror the flat net model that already exists in the core with a more nuanced and yet to be decided structure. > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > http://www.noqsi.com/ > jpd AT noqsi DOT com > > -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/