X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_139FDD59-6B48-4790-815C-0762BA919E3B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201510132039.t9DKdN4L007713@envy.delorie.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:09:25 -0600 Message-Id: <4E6FB777-8298-4C7D-B99A-61D99C62A9E8@noqsi.com> References: <1042003D-82E2-40F0-AB60-8186580C46AD AT noqsi DOT com> <201510121905 DOT t9CJ5T9W026297 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <88EA58F5-2B23-498A-9E5B-84054976DBED AT noqsi DOT com> <4D3CD563-D8EE-4B2A-975A-AC2B573960FF AT noqsi DOT com> <34B17816-9EA5-45FD-BFB4-9D623A8D3D87 AT noqsi DOT com> <201510132039 DOT t9DKdN4L007713 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_139FDD59-6B48-4790-815C-0762BA919E3B Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_60834397-90E9-47B8-A73A-F47C5FA94288" --Apple-Mail=_60834397-90E9-47B8-A73A-F47C5FA94288 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 13, 2015, at 2:39 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >=20 >> Please not in libgeda or the geda-gaf core tools. That has >> tremendous potential to break things. geda-gaf is a mature toolkit >> in production use: changes to the core should not be taken >> lightly. New tools and new plug-ins are great. We have a transparent >> schematic format and powerful scripting mechanisms to give us power >> and to allow us to keep that power from interfering with each >> other's objectives. >=20 > What about exposing attributes-on-nets to the backends? >=20 I=92ve wanted that for a long time, but I note that you can effectively = attach attributes to nets using symbols. The fine primitive = gnetlist:graphical-objs-in-net-with-attrib-get-attrib (the longest name = in the gnetlist namespace) allows a backend to extract them. This is = more versatile, as it allows the back end not only access to attributes, = but allows a symbol to define relationships between nets. Consider the = following, which could allow a backend to deduce that a pair of nets is = a transmission line, and give it a name: --Apple-Mail=_60834397-90E9-47B8-A73A-F47C5FA94288 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=impedance.sym Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="impedance.sym" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable v=2020130925=202=0AT=20100=20300=209=2010=201=200=200=200=201=0A=CE=A9=0A= T=20100=20300=208=2010=201=201=200=206=201=0Aimpedance=3D?=0AP=20100=20= 700=20100=20500=201=200=200=0A{=0AT=2050=20595=205=2010=200=201=2090=200=20= 1=0Apinnumber=3D1=0AT=20100=20700=205=2010=200=200=200=200=201=0A= pinseq=3D1=0A}=0AL=20100=20700=20200=20600=203=200=200=200=20-1=20-1=0AL=20= 100=20700=200=20600=203=200=200=200=20-1=20-1=0AP=20100=200=20100=20200=20= 1=200=200=0A{=0AT=2050=20105=205=2010=200=201=2090=206=201=0Apinnumber=3D2= =0AT=20100=200=205=2010=200=200=20180=200=201=0Apinseq=3D2=0A}=0AL=20100=20= 0=200=20100=203=200=200=200=20-1=20-1=0AL=20100=200=20200=20100=203=200=20= 0=200=20-1=20-1=0AT=20400=20300=208=2010=200=200=200=200=201=0A= graphical=3D1=0AT=20300=20300=208=2010=201=201=200=200=201=0A= refdes=3Dline-name=0A= --Apple-Mail=_60834397-90E9-47B8-A73A-F47C5FA94288 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So, I see no urgency to exposing attributes on nets. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_60834397-90E9-47B8-A73A-F47C5FA94288-- --Apple-Mail=_139FDD59-6B48-4790-815C-0762BA919E3B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWHXMGAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRnFsP/iXVB+UTRevGPyZV5HQ7bO4J DAlZLTlRABt6Y91FfCDkDBuKZHfL61YVUEgNQUeu/FvVRCgC+n3HssvT2FxdkYkk oK9dADjq5wZprx9xajDatN9RO3JrM17wUl+1uyesmdrwHYZ2/LFUCSqDXar74h9j b270N9MVJaD7o82H1ryj4mvkn3Wlpw5v6q6WkxWiy7RrQQ1OfX6tevqjgGygngjg 2TvFywg1rWbgvSwZ00BZS5bPtfScBhT7xntwXezPOtZVcC6Odz/DQreBZkoOZZqB ZtBKdg+kgGFxKhedqLV9UQ/8O4aphvYSTfOqIJ7JwAcXU7qxi6W2rMRht6xSA8DE Mp7BZgreVdr7C9etjmvuypZwVmH944AZ4aR2nd3PPvg4ZrFtm4P9MfZrzE+zcCQz jPE2wlwAJshPVq4WlgUl+zwmRZN7PvNhFmTY/f+8RFslJPJT2U3PPauxyG49dyGs 4ZpdrsYb29TWK2Z5vc9G8dfoBkrIoH80qrSy+Kg8BYzoXUrruy2Q/DFhD3IfA2zt IgE4SmpxY9JRrXpasNzoH5Jkw+jbaGR1beA6M4g0MV4k7r8mpy8JBN2gxvNy2VPf BPg1XmNh+jZNiZPRCvwEtamvmGfkA1/1+3akO2Lvvn4cwmwgNVgDi967tQwYLIBQ DTrUNADTWb140GVibsrX =Y5Yg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_139FDD59-6B48-4790-815C-0762BA919E3B--