X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2015-09-23_06:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 kscore.is_bulkscore=1.38103456448491e-09 compositescore=0.99972376455583 phishscore=0 kscore.is_spamscore=0 rbsscore=0.99972376455583 recipient_to_sender_totalscore=0 spamscore=0 urlsuspectscore=0.99972376455583 adultscore=0 kscore.compositescore=0 circleOfTrustscore=0 suspectscore=6 recipient_domain_to_sender_totalscore=0 bulkscore=0 recipient_domain_to_sender_domain_totalscore=0 recipient_to_sender_domain_totalscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1509230205 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] [OT] Wireless communication 101 From: "Chris Smith (space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:55:00 +0100 Message-id: References: <70C4A238-D361-4A6C-A81D-CBF019CADC4F AT icloud DOT com> <5601AE56 DOT 2050706 AT neurotica DOT com> <0958473E-0115-4C08-860F-EF92B84B7404 AT icloud DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t8NEt6CB028264 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com > On 23 Sep 2015, at 13:06, Bob Paddock (graceindustries AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >> As I said, I can't influence the RF part, only the ones and zeros that are encoded onto the carrier. I also can't change at this stage the simplex operation. > > As in always TX -> RX or just one direction between the two at a time > (half duplex)? Strictly simplex, not half duplex. >> Thanks for the OT prompt. I've amended the subject line and will let the thread die out -- I wasn't looking for lengthy discourse anyway, just a few pointers. I will look at the ARRL handbook. > > While also at ARRL book store look at the Packet related items and at > the TAPR web site. Maybe you want to be in Chicago on Oct 9th for the > 2015 digital conference? https://www.tapr.org/ TAPR has lots of > Interesting Stuff. > > Also download and play with FLDigi http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html > Look through the modes such as PSK31 and BPSK63 et.al. on low > bandwidth (and slow) signals. There are bout 40 different > modulations, encoding etc. > Source code is available. > > AX.25 is the standard used for Amateur Packet Radio. > > I've had good results adapting the sliding-window protocol from Hydra > for my com applications over the years. It is based on the older > ZMODEM sliding window stuff. > Search for 'hydra' here ; http://archives.thebbs.org/ra90c.htm > > Also look up 'Error Correcting Codes' and CRCs (prepare for eye glaze > over if try to figure out the math of CRC Galois Fields of limited > Syndrome Length... Most people just copy the code found on Internet, > some of which is popular and mathematically wrong). Sadly I’m on the wrong side of the pond for TAPR, but thanks for all the links. Lots of reading ahead. :) Chris — Chris Smith