X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com From: Kai-Martin Knaak Subject: Re: [Geda-developers] PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:51:47 +0200 Organization: Institut =?UTF-8?B?ZsO8cg==?= Quantenoptik Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Complaints-To: usenet AT ger DOT gmane DOT org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.75.102.197 User-Agent: KNode/4.14.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t8GMpxED005921 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda- user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > I understand that you have contributed meaningfully to this project but > we need a team to be blessed by the powers that be. In my very humble opinion, we need a working team in the first place. The keyword here is "working" as opposed to let patches bit rot, not decide weather or not a feature branch should get merged or abandoned, or not the least, procrastinate releases and have no road map with goals for future development whatsoever. Everything else should come second. (Sorry for the harsh words. But realistically, the above characterizes the progress of the geda project since about 2008 for the most part. Yes, there were significant improvements in some areas and I am glad about it. Else, I would have switched away since long. But seen from a distance the progress looks glacially -- in particular when compared to projects like freecad or kicad) > The blessing legitimizes the team. Kings and popes need to be blessed... > With out a legitimate team the project will devolve back into people > fighting on an email list Sorry, but I have not seen developers seriously fighting on geda-user ever since I started reading it in 2005/2006. The list geda-devel while it was readable for mortal users was even more peaceful. > and even if code is written no release could ever be issued. gEDA will > be known as that project with a million forks, Being motivated and capable to contribute but locked out by the powers that be constitutes a strong motivation to fork. This is more than pure speculation. Remember, why Igor started his pcb-rnd? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get