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Levente (leventelist AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Hey,
>
>
> I've created a specification of the new data structure. Well... sort 
> of. Do you think I'm a troll? I think the list traffic was okay over 
> the weekend. We've been talking about technical things. DJ and John 
> talk about mathematical stuff, which is IMHO okay.
>
> I've also used the CR5000. I am inspired by that tool. Most notably, 
> they also use database as their data storage.
>
> Come, and help us moving PCB! Contribute to the new stuff! If you send 
> me patches, I'll apply it! But we have to first talk about the the design.
>
> Cheers,
> Lev
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Vaclav Peroutka (vaclavpe AT seznam DOT cz 
> <mailto:vaclavpe AT seznam DOT cz>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com 
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com 
> <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>
>         There's no dynamics modeling going on here, we're talking
>         about interactive movements of parts.  So there's no error
>         buildup and using rationals seems to address a non-problem. 
>         If its disturbing to have 60 become 59.9999 after two
>         rotations put angles in bins fine enough to represent what you
>         need.  If it's a problem if edges of a large part might alias
>         under different rotations, use angular bins small enough to
>         discriminate between adjacent cells at the far corner of your
>         board.  1 1m board with um grid needs maybe 10M angular bins
>         to make a slam dunk, not so many really
>
>
>     How does it correspond to geda users ? I would understand that
>     this kind of info is needed for developers. But from user's point
>     of view ? Users want to download software and just use it. Users
>     want to notice bugfixes. Users want to see new features to
>     increase their productivity.
>
>
>     I am user of geda (scm, pcb) more than 10 years. I did first
>     experiments in year 2003. And what is the current situation ?
>     Recently somebody wrote that Kicad still evolves, there are new
>     releases.  It seems to me that geda developers talk what to do but
>     nothing new is being developed. I tried to contribute the way I
>     was able to. I filled in several bug reports. One year is gone but
>     nothing happened. But I receive 100 emails from geda-user mailing
>     list every day. 90 emails are various flame wars.
>
>
>     I do not know how many real users are here. But for all PLEASE -
>     stop flamewars in this list. Let somebody create geda-thrashcan
>     list. Or some similar. If you want to talk about how to implement
>     features, about how to rewrite the geda core - please move to
>     geda-devel list.
>
>
>     If you want to fix bugs (unfortunately I am not able to. I even
>     have not succeeded to compile geda for Windows...), please DO IT.
>     If you want to implement functionality which increases
>     productivity of at least something (improve moving of components,
>     etc.) please DO IT. I will be the first person who will thank you.
>
>
>     I have not used Kicad. But I used Orcad 16.5 and Zuken cr5000. I
>     am sure that there are several features and functionality that can
>     be added to geda (routing of high frequency pairs, measurement of
>     track length, routing of busses, ... ).
>
>
>
>
Hi all,

We could take this subject to the Launchpad (LP) Bug Tracker by opening 
a new bug report for this feature.

Anyone interested could choose to subscribe (and contribute) to this 
specific bug (== feature).

Bonus points if someone knows how to open up the LP Blueprints 
functionality (by contacting some pcb LP admin) to us mere mortals, so 
we can have a "wall" we all can add our scribbles to.

It's possible to make a connection between bugs and blueprints in LP.

Just my EUR 0.02.

Kind regards,

Bert Timmerman.